Eastern Washington v Georgetown (Video)

[Rob1968]

So, because the ball is dead - the travel call having come previous to the slap in the face - that the contact was not considered to rise to the level of intentional or flagrant, it is no-called?

If that is the case, what if the same contact happened during a live ball situation? It seems to me, that with the emphasis on contact above the shoulders, then such contact would be ruled a common foul. Thoughts?

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

So, because the ball is dead - the travel call having come previous to the slap in the face - that the contact was not considered to rise to the level of intentional or flagrant, it is no-called?

If that is the case, what if the same contact happened during a live ball situation? It seems to me, that with the emphasis on contact above the shoulders, then such contact would be ruled a common foul. Thoughts?

The non-fighting reaction is a way to show that the previous call was correct, not that it led to the call or non-call. If the EW player had gotten up and was ready to retaliate with a slap or hit of his own, then I'd look again and see if I'd missed something that happened earlier.

Again, I'm not saying the lack of reaction leads to the call, but using that helps to see if the previous call was correct or not.

BTW... what slap to the face? The G'town player hit the EW player in the chest.

Oh, and I'm a Syracuse fan, and do not like G'town.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

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BTW... what slap to the face? The G'town player hit the EW player in the chest.

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I was wondering the same thing.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

From my seats this appeared to be the case:

The Georgetown player was excited after the travel and made a celebratory gesture which happened to make contact with the opponent as he got up. It was completely unintentional and the two covering officials understood that.

They informed the EWU coach of what they saw BEFORE going to the monitor and made no call after the review.

This is what I saw on replay.

Originally Posted by mutantducky

I saw the replay several times. For NFHS at least it would be a technical and some refs would have ejected him. I was just totally miffed by the no-call. Reggie Miller was against an ejection but even he thought something should be called.

You might be able to get away with a technical foul here, but video wouldn't support it.

If you toss this kid, I doubt the state would support most officials on that unless there's been a lot of extra curricular activity leading up to it.

On its own, this is nothing but a talk to.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I was wondering the same thing.

Me too, if he slaps him in the face, this whole discussion changes.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Oh, and I'm a Syracuse fan, and do not like G'town.

Now I finally understand what's wrong with you!

[bballref3966]

Looks to be the right call despite what it looked like at first glance and what the commentators were ranting about.

The takeaway from this is to not turn away from the players while signaling. I don't understand the logic behind walking to the other end while signaling.

[Camron Rust]

Agree...nothing to call during the dead ball. If it had been a live ball, it would have been a common foul.

[mutantducky]

there is a further video with the EW player pointing on the ground, basically going WTF was that for. The Georgetown player should have been T'd up there. That was an awful miss call by the refs. Sure maybe the excitement got the better of him. But he made contact with the EW player after the whistle in an aggressive fashion. You can't just let something like that go as the commentators were saying it could lead to trouble/retaliation later in the game. On the TV side the initial debate was about whether or not he could be ejected but they settled on flagrant foul 1. No one expected a no-call here. I do agree the reaction after with the players greeting each other probably helped but I think the refs should have looked at this more carefully.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

there is a further video with the EW player pointing on the ground, basically going WTF was that for. The Georgetown player should have been T'd up there. That was an awful miss call by the refs. Sure maybe the excitement got the better of him. But he made contact with the EW player after the whistle in an aggressive fashion. You can't just let something like that go as the commentators were saying it could lead to trouble/retaliation later in the game. On the TV side the initial debate was about whether or not he could be ejected but they settled on flagrant foul 1. No one expected a no-call here. I do agree the reaction after with the players greeting each other probably helped but I think the refs should have looked at this more carefully.

They did look at this more carefully. They went to the monitor and reviewed the play. After doing that, they still decided that the action didn't warrant a technical foul.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

there is a further video with the EW player pointing on the ground, basically going WTF was that for. The Georgetown player should have been T'd up there. That was an awful miss call by the refs. Sure maybe the excitement got the better of him. But he made contact with the EW player after the whistle in an aggressive fashion. You can't just let something like that go as the commentators were saying it could lead to trouble/retaliation later in the game. On the TV side the initial debate was about whether or not he could be ejected but they settled on flagrant foul 1. No one expected a no-call here. I do agree the reaction after with the players greeting each other probably helped but I think the refs should have looked at this more carefully.

Quoting the commentators isn't helping your cause.

[MD Longhorn]

If this is the right video, I must say that a large number of you have lost your minds. I see ZERO contact to the face. Minimal contact (and inadvertent at that) to the torso, perhaps an arm. And then significant embellishment by the traveller, going to the ground for no reason.