"Self-Pass" Violation?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

the tricky ones can be when a player dribbling, makes a one handed pass to his teammate close-by who doesn't see the ball as in the OP. I saw that in a JC playoff game last week, the the player just got the ball. It started off as a pass but then he didn't let it go fully and he got it quickly back. Kind of a half pass if that makes sense. The ref let it go.
If it isn't a carry on the pass, say just a dribble then one handed bounce pass, ok for the player to go get it and continue his dribble?

Yep....assuming, as you said, that in trying to "pass" the ball the player never let the ball come to rest in a hand. It is just an odd dribble.

[chymechowder]

Thanks. So if A1 receives a backcourt throw-in. Doesn't dribble. Throws it towards A2, who doesn't see the "pass." Then A1 could legally recover? As long as his pivot foot wasn't off the ground when he threw the ball?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

Thanks. So if A1 receives a backcourt throw-in. Doesn't dribble. Throws it towards A2, who doesn't see the "pass." Then A1 could legally recover? As long as his pivot foot wasn't off the ground when he threw the ball?

Why wouldn't it be legal?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

Thanks. So if A1 receives a backcourt throw-in. Doesn't dribble. Throws it towards A2, who doesn't see the "pass." Then A1 could legally recover? As long as his pivot foot wasn't off the ground when he threw the ball?

It's just a "long dribble." There's a specific case on this (sorry, no books handy to give the specific reference)

[chymechowder]

yeah I was confused last night on the definition of pass and dribble as it relates to intent....the forum replies helped me realize that the player's intent doesn't matter. it's just whether he has completed a dribble or not before "passing"

thanks!