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"Self-Pass" Violation?
A1 is dribbling in backcourt. He makes a 2-handed bounce pass to A2, who's running alongside him. A2 never sees the pass and continues running into the frontcourt.
A1 runs over to the bouncing ball, and while stationary, recovers it. Violation? |
Yes. Illegal dribble.
But for your own edification, there is no such thing as a self pass, as a pass is, by definition, thrown to a teammate. The dribble ended when he touched it with 2 hands to attempt a pass. When he recovered it, it constituted a second dribble. |
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the tricky ones can be when a player dribbling, makes a one handed pass to his teammate close-by who doesn't see the ball as in the OP. I saw that in a JC playoff game last week, the the player just got the ball. It started off as a pass but then he didn't let it go fully and he got it quickly back. Kind of a half pass if that makes sense. The ref let it go.
If it isn't a carry on the pass, say just a dribble then one handed bounce pass, ok for the player to go get it and continue his dribble? |
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Thanks. So if A1 receives a backcourt throw-in. Doesn't dribble. Throws it towards A2, who doesn't see the "pass." Then A1 could legally recover? As long as his pivot foot wasn't off the ground when he threw the ball?
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Does the distance, or being stationary make a difference? |
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(I know you know that, but I don't want any readers to come away with the impression that any "self pass" is a violation.") |
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yeah I was confused last night on the definition of pass and dribble as it relates to intent....the forum replies helped me realize that the player's intent doesn't matter. it's just whether he has completed a dribble or not before "passing"
thanks! |
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