Held Ball Signal Mechanic

[bas2456]

I had a partner tonight tell me that on a held ball, I should just go up with two thumbs rather than use the stop clock signal, then go two thumbs up.

What is the correct mechanic?

[bballref3966]

Exactly as he told you.

[bob jenkins]

The pictures in the back of the rule book should give you the answer.

Note that picture 3 says "stop clock for held ball" -- so you don't need the separate "stop clock" signal.

[Camron Rust]

He was correct.

DISCLAIMER: UNPOPULAR/CONTROVERSIAL OPINION INBOUND. THIS OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY RULE, BUT FEEL FREE NOT TO POINT THAT OUT.

I like throwing up the stop-clock mechanic before the held ball signal. It's not necessary but it gives officials a second to make sure that another official doesn't have a foul or a timeout. It's like a blarge -- I'd rather avoid any situation where two officials would be giving different signals and then having to sort out which action came first.

[Rob1968]

OFFICIALS MANUAL 2.4.3 Held Ball
B. Give the signal for a held ball immediately. There is no need to raise a hand for the stop-clock signal.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

DISCLAIMER: UNPOPULAR/CONTROVERSIAL OPINION INBOUND. THIS OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY RULE, BUT FEEL FREE NOT TO POINT THAT OUT.

I like throwing up the stop-clock mechanic before the held ball signal. It's not necessary but it gives officials a second to make sure that another official doesn't have a foul or a timeout. It's like a blarge -- I'd rather avoid any situation where two officials would be giving different signals and then having to sort out which action came first.

We usually hit the whistle a few times before coming in with a mechanic. No stop clock, but no immediate thumbs, either.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AremRed

DISCLAIMER: UNPOPULAR/CONTROVERSIAL OPINION INBOUND. THIS OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY RULE, BUT FEEL FREE NOT TO POINT THAT OUT.

I like throwing up the stop-clock mechanic before the held ball signal. It's not necessary but it gives officials a second to make sure that another official doesn't have a foul or a timeout. It's like a blarge -- I'd rather avoid any situation where two officials would be giving different signals and then having to sort out which action came first.

That is exactly the reason to give the proper signal first....so you can tell something about what each other has just by looking at each other. Maybe theirs really was after.

[JRutledge]

It is one of the three ways to stop the clock. You do not need another signal to stop the clock for a held ball.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

DISCLAIMER: UNPOPULAR/CONTROVERSIAL OPINION INBOUND. THIS OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY RULE, BUT FEEL FREE NOT TO POINT THAT OUT.

I like throwing up the stop-clock mechanic before the held ball signal. It's not necessary but it gives officials a second to make sure that another official doesn't have a foul or a timeout. It's like a blarge -- I'd rather avoid any situation where two officials would be giving different signals and then having to sort out which action came first.

So do you also throw up the "open hand" when you have a foul, just in case your partner has a TO or a traveling violation (or other) at about the same time?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

So do you also throw up the "open hand" when you have a foul, just in case your partner has a TO or a traveling violation (or other) at about the same time?

Did you read the disclaimer?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Did you read the disclaimer?

Yes, I did. Thanks for checking.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

DISCLAIMER: UNPOPULAR/CONTROVERSIAL OPINION INBOUND. THIS OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY RULE, BUT FEEL FREE NOT TO POINT THAT OUT.

I like throwing up the stop-clock mechanic before the held ball signal. It's not necessary but it gives officials a second to make sure that another official doesn't have a foul or a timeout. It's like a blarge -- I'd rather avoid any situation where two officials would be giving different signals and then having to sort out which action came first.

You give the proper signal so it is clear what you have for your partner at the very least.

Peace

[constable]

Originally Posted by AremRed

DISCLAIMER: UNPOPULAR/CONTROVERSIAL OPINION INBOUND. THIS OPINION MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUPPORTED BY RULE, BUT FEEL FREE NOT TO POINT THAT OUT.

I like throwing up the stop-clock mechanic before the held ball signal. It's not necessary but it gives officials a second to make sure that another official doesn't have a foul or a timeout. It's like a blarge -- I'd rather avoid any situation where two officials would be giving different signals and then having to sort out which action came first.

And what if you throw up the stop clock open palm and your partner has a fist?

If you come in with 2 thumbs up and your partner has a foul and fist, you figure out what came first. It is no different than any other double whistle and is nothing like a blarge.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Rich

We usually hit the whistle a few times before coming in with a mechanic. No stop clock, but no immediate thumbs, either.

Exactly what I do.