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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:20pm
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This is a rare case to use 2-3 IMO...readminister the first FT.

I would recommend to not issue a technical foul. Nevada is of the mind that issuing technical fouls to the home team for spectator behavior should be used more liberally than 96.532 percent of other officialsbelieve. In Nevada's world, anyone could appear as a fan for an opponent...and do the same thing to distract...get a missed Ft...and then 2 additional FT's for his real team.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 04:03pm
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While there is no rule to support the replacement FT, I believe my assignors would rather that was how this were handled rather than giving the home team a TF.

I don't mean to say my personal feelings trump the rules, but it doesn't seem right to punish the home team like that. It's not the teams responsibility to control the crowd, so why should they be punished like that?
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:20pm
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... anyone could appear as a fan for an opponent...and do the same thing to distract...get a missed Ft...and then 2 additional FT's for his real team.
Agree. They can be anybody.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:28pm
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This is a rare case to use 2-3 IMO...readminister the first FT.
One cannot invoke 2-3 when there is already rules coverage provided to handle the situation.

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I would recommend to not issue a technical foul. Nevada is of the mind that issuing technical fouls to the home team for spectator behavior should be used more liberally than 96.532 percent of other officialsbelieve. In Nevada's world, anyone could appear as a fan for an opponent...and do the same thing to distract...get a missed Ft...and then 2 additional FT's for his real team.
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Agree. They can be anybody.
That is why you work with game management to determine the identity of the individual before having the person removed or issuing any penalty.
Notice that the OP stated that this was a member of the boys varsity team from the home school.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 06:34pm
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Compromise ???

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Notice that the OP stated that this was a member of the boys varsity team from the home school.
Good point. In this case the distracting fan was very easy to identify, other times, it may be more difficult, or even impossible.

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There is no rule allowing you to give a replacement free throw for this.
How about Fundamental #16: The official’s whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead (it is already dead).

The officials couldn't sound their whistles in time to stop the try, so, in reality, the player may have shot a dead ball. Try again.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 09:11pm
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How about Fundamental #16: The official’s whistle seldom causes the ball to become dead (it is already dead).

The officials couldn't sound their whistles in time to stop the try, so, in reality, the player may have shot a dead ball. Try again.
Sorry, but this doesn't mean we can just declare the ball has been dead because it's more convenient. There is a list of things that make the ball dead, and none of them involve a fan.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 09:50pm
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Sorry, but this doesn't mean we can just declare the ball has been dead because it's more convenient. There is a list of things that make the ball dead, and none of them involve a fan.
A fan committing an act which results in a team technical foul would make the ball dead, barring a try being in flight. Of course, the official would have to be stopping play to charge the technical foul!
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2015, 10:01pm
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My first question would be how certain are we the miss was because of the fan? If it was too late to stop it.....
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