UNC/Duke (Video)

[Rich1]

1) Block! If the defender has to slide over several feet then I don't see how LGP was established in the path of the offensive player.

2) Not goal tending.

3) Looks more like a PC foul to me. Defender was there and set before offensive player. Sure, he fell back a little early but he had LGP and there was contact.

4) In real time it surely looked like a foul so I have no problem with it. If you have to use slo-mo to see that there was not much contact then its understandable how it goy called.

5) If you judged that the defender was riding the dribbler to the point that he was pushed of his line then a foul is warranted. But, I can see why there are those who would not call this.

6) Travel. Not only does he gather the ball on one foot before jumping, he lands with one foot down before the other so its not even a good jump stop.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich1

1) Block! If the defender has to slide over several feet then I don't see how LGP was established in the path of the offensive player.

The defender got both feet down, in the path, before the shooter left the floor at the end of the slide. So, how far he had to slide is not really relevant.

[Rich1]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The defender got both feet down, in the path, before the shooter left the floor at the end of the slide. So, how far he had to slide is not really relevant.

It was very close but to me the shooter is leaving the floor as the defender gets his feet down so I don't feel he had any chance to avoid contact. How far he has to slide is a factor because he clearly was not in the path initially and did not get over intime for me. At full speed this is often tough to judge.

And, how far he had to slide does matter. If I set up in LGP on the right lane line in your path while you are several feet away when I slide over to the left lane line because you have adjusted your path then I have fouled you. Granted, if I can REESTABLISH LGP then its a charge but the farther you have to move the less time you have to get set.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich1

... but the farther you have to move the less time you have to get set.

To get what?

At the 19 second point of the video, defender has two feet down and is in the path, while the shooter's foot is still on the floor. It's certainly a close call, but it's the right call.

[Camron Rust]

Rich1, There is almost nothing correct in your post....

Originally Posted by Rich1

It was very close but to me the shooter is leaving the floor as the defender gets his feet down so I don't feel he had any chance to avoid contact.

Irrelevant. The shooter had a long time to avoid contact....before he started jumping. It is not like the defender appeared out of nothing. The shooter knows the defender is coming and has to make a choice. He chose to try to be the defender but didn't.

If the defender got his feet down before the shooter has left the floor, the defender got there.

Originally Posted by Rich1

How far he has to slide is a factor because he clearly was not in the path initially and did not get over intime for me. At full speed this is often tough to judge.

All that matters is where he ended up, not how far he had to go to get there.

Originally Posted by Rich1

And, how far he had to slide does matter. If I set up in LGP on the right lane line in your path while you are several feet away when I slide over to the left lane line because you have adjusted your path then I have fouled you.

Not correct.

Originally Posted by Rich1

Granted, if I can REESTABLISH LGP then its a charge but the farther you have to move the less time you have to get set.

Again, not correct.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Rich1

It was very close but to me the shooter is leaving the floor as the defender gets his feet down so I don't feel he had any chance to avoid contact. How far he has to slide is a factor because he clearly was not in the path initially and did not get over intime for me. At full speed this is often tough to judge.

And, how far he had to slide does matter. If I set up in LGP on the right lane line in your path while you are several feet away when I slide over to the left lane line because you have adjusted your path then I have fouled you. Granted, if I can REESTABLISH LGP then its a charge but the farther you have to move the less time you have to get set.

Time and distance are not a factor. Try again.