Traveling

[Rob1968]

Case Book 4.44.5 SITUATION D: A1 secures possession of the ball with one knee in contact with the floor. May A1 assume a standing position without committing a traveling violation? RULING: It depends on what A1 does. If A1 attempts to stand up while holding the ball, a traveling violation occurs. However, if A1 starts a dribble and then rises, no violation has occurred. Also, A1 could pass, try for goal or request a time-out from that position.

The often repeated discussion here on the forum, is whether going from two knees in contact with the floor, to one knee, constitutes a traveling violation.
One side says that that move is an attempt to stand. The other side says that this play, in the Case Book, indicates that to stand means to go to a position of both feet on the floor, and no knee touching.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Case Book 4.44.5 SITUATION D: A1 secures possession of the ball with one knee in contact with the floor. May A1 assume a standing position without committing a traveling violation? RULING: It depends on what A1 does. If A1 attempts to stand up while holding the ball, a traveling violation occurs. However, if A1 starts a dribble and then rises, no violation has occurred. Also, A1 could pass, try for goal or request a time-out from that position.

The often repeated discussion here on the forum, is whether going from two knees in contact with the floor, to one knee, constitutes a traveling violation.
One side says that that move is an attempt to stand. The other side says that this play, in the Case Book, indicates that to stand means to go to a position of both feet on the floor, and no knee touching.

Sorry, but regardless of which side one comes down on, I don't see any way this case congress close to answering the question.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Adam

Sorry, but regardless of which side one comes down on, I don't see any way this case congress close to answering the question.

I agree.
I posted the substance of the past discussions just for information sake. I've noticed that we have more visitors to the forum, and thought it might be helpful.

I find the differences between NF and NCAA rules that govern the judgment in such cases quite interesting.

[Hawkeyes]

I'm one of the new guys to this forum and have already learned a lot - so thanks for taking the time to review men!
Two questions:
1. If a player while on their knees w/ the ball begins scooting or "knee walking" to avoid a jump ball - do we have a violation?
2. Once a player holding the ball sits up: can they then "lay down" again in an attempt to avoid a tie-up? How many "situps" can we allow?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hawkeyes

I'm one of the new guys to this forum and have already learned a lot - so thanks for taking the time to review men!
Two questions:
1. If a player while on their knees w/ the ball begins scooting or "knee walking" to avoid a jump ball - do we have a violation?
2. Once a player holding the ball sits up: can they then "lay down" again in an attempt to avoid a tie-up? How many "situps" can we allow?

1. Yes.

2. As many as can be completed in 5 seconds.