Penn State / Maryland

[mutantducky]

There is no doubt in my mind the ref would have passed on the illegal screen had the players not went down. Had the defender simply moved out of the way which he could have done, and played D it would have been a no-call. From what I see, the MD player is clearly grabbing the screener and causing the players to fall. Both of them are at fault here. Yeah, maybe a no-call would have been in order but like you say that doesn't really fall under the incidental variety.
It really was a no-win situation for the ref.
The Penn St coach needs to chill.

[ref3808]

My compliments to the official. I watched the clip twice before I saw the trip. He had it all the way in real time. Good call.

And by the way coach, I don't believe that's the worst call you've ever seen.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ref3808

And by the way coach, I don't believe that's the worst call you've ever seen.

You've got that right. At some point in his career he must have seen Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. officiate.

No-call for me.

[walt]

I like the call. You've got two bodies on the floor with no ability to participate in the next basketball play. Had to have a call and I like the call he made.

[crosscountry55]

Okay, okay. The more I'm reading and watching, the more I'm realizing that I'm probably wrong. I was probably over-influenced by the PSU-written article.

But I'm only going to say it once.

If the Big 10 Coordinator of Officials sees it the same way all of you do, this "young" official who "doesn't have a feel for the game" will probably have a really nice schedule next year. Took a very patient whistle and big cajones to make that call.

I do agree that the play needs a whistle. I admit I probably would have missed the "step" and instead seen to hold. Talk about a lesson in seeing the whole play. Damn.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

If the Big 10 Coordinator of Officials sees it the same way all of you do, this "young" official who "doesn't have a feel for the game" will probably have a really nice schedule next year. Took a very patient whistle and big cajones to make that call.

I met Kelly at camp last year. If his 100 D1 games in the past two years are any indication, I think he's probably gonna keep getting games. If not he can always go back to the D League and start working NBA.

[mutantducky]

just asking

would anyone call a double foul here?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

just asking

would anyone call a double foul here?

No. The trip makes the ball is dead. The subsequent contact is ignored unless intentional or flagrant. It was neither.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

just asking

would anyone call a double foul here?

Nope, by rule, the ball is dead when the screener steps on the defender's foot. The grab is just a player protecting himself following illegal contact.

I hope the notice for Chamber's fine includes a short note that the official was absolutely correct.

I wish the Big Ten would come out and publicly announce the official made a great call. We see too many times when they announce an official got it wrong, or we get the "technically the right call" garbage. This is an amazing call.