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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:15pm
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Quite Minor Illegal Screen ???

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It looks like an illegal screen, but quite minor so a no call probably was in order.
This, "quite minor", "illegal screen", ended up with two players on the floor. If nothing illegal had happened, i.e. all incidental contact, then one could pass on this play, but once one decides that something illegal happened, even if it's a "quite minor", "illegal", action, then the resulting pile of players on the floor requires a whistle, and a call.
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 04:45pm
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Great call.

Screener illegally tripped the defender and took him out of the play.
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 05:39pm
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There is no doubt in my mind the ref would have passed on the illegal screen had the players not went down. Had the defender simply moved out of the way which he could have done, and played D it would have been a no-call. From what I see, the MD player is clearly grabbing the screener and causing the players to fall. Both of them are at fault here. Yeah, maybe a no-call would have been in order but like you say that doesn't really fall under the incidental variety.
It really was a no-win situation for the ref.
The Penn St coach needs to chill.
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 05:56pm
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My compliments to the official. I watched the clip twice before I saw the trip. He had it all the way in real time. Good call.

And by the way coach, I don't believe that's the worst call you've ever seen.
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 06:24pm
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Holy Toledo ...

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And by the way coach, I don't believe that's the worst call you've ever seen.
You've got that right. At some point in his career he must have seen Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. officiate.
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 07:11pm
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No-call for me.
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Old Wed Feb 18, 2015, 10:49am
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I like the call. You've got two bodies on the floor with no ability to participate in the next basketball play. Had to have a call and I like the call he made.
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 07:17pm
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Okay, okay. The more I'm reading and watching, the more I'm realizing that I'm probably wrong. I was probably over-influenced by the PSU-written article.

But I'm only going to say it once.

If the Big 10 Coordinator of Officials sees it the same way all of you do, this "young" official who "doesn't have a feel for the game" will probably have a really nice schedule next year. Took a very patient whistle and big cajones to make that call.

I do agree that the play needs a whistle. I admit I probably would have missed the "step" and instead seen to hold. Talk about a lesson in seeing the whole play. Damn.
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Old Sun Feb 15, 2015, 08:17pm
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If the Big 10 Coordinator of Officials sees it the same way all of you do, this "young" official who "doesn't have a feel for the game" will probably have a really nice schedule next year. Took a very patient whistle and big cajones to make that call.
I met Kelly at camp last year. If his 100 D1 games in the past two years are any indication, I think he's probably gonna keep getting games. If not he can always go back to the D League and start working NBA.
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