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Old Sat Feb 07, 2015, 04:55pm
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Lane Violation (Video)

Both refs explained that perimeter players couldn't cross the top of the three point line until the ball hit the rim. After the game, another ref sitting in the stands said the perimeter players couldn't cross the FT line. I looked up the rule and I think it's the FT line.

Can anyone confirm? Is this a lane violation on the perimeter?

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Old Sat Feb 07, 2015, 05:01pm
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It's both. Perimeter players must stay outside the three-point line, and above the free-throw line extended until the ball hits the rim. Violation in this video.
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Old Sun Feb 08, 2015, 11:06am
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If a fake by an opponent causes the free thrower or a teammate of the free thrower to violate, only the fake is penalized.
Interesting, if the defender merely fakes in this video, then we would only penalize his actions. However, if the defender goes ahead and violates and the free thrower's teammate goes in, too, then it's a double violation.

That seems odd to me, precisely because of the situation in the video.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2015, 05:08pm
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frezer is right.

The players must stay outside the 3 point arc, and above the free throw line extended.
In this video, both players commit a violation. If this happened along the lane line, I'd only penalize the first violation, by rule. Since it's above the arc, I'm not so sure this shouldn't be a simultaneous violation.

Penalize both, cancel the shot and move to the next shot or go to the arrow if there are no more shots to be taken.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2015, 05:41pm
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frezer is right.

The players must stay outside the 3 point arc, and above the free throw line extended.
In this video, both players commit a violation. If this happened along the lane line, I'd only penalize the first violation, by rule. Since it's above the arc, I'm not so sure this shouldn't be a simultaneous violation.

Penalize both, cancel the shot and move to the next shot or go to the arrow if there are no more shots to be taken.
When the first violation is by the defense and the next by the thrower or a teammate of the thrower not in a marked lane space, then both violations are penalized as if they had been simultaneous, even though they really weren't. Rule citation = 9-1 Penalty Section 4b
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2015, 05:45pm
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When the first violation is by the defense and the next by the thrower or a teammate of the thrower not in a marked lane space, then both violations are penalized as if they had been simultaneous even though they really weren't. Rule citation = 9-1 Penalty Section 4b
Thank you, Nevada. That's what I was remembering.

So, in the video: Wave off the FT, AP throw in.

Here's a question, though. Given the location of the violation, where do you bring the ball in. End line or side line?
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2015, 05:49pm
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Thank you, Nevada. That's what I was remembering.

So, in the video: Wave off the FT, AP throw in.

Here's a question, though. Given the location of the violation, where do you bring the ball in. End line or side line?
I would probably go sideline, but not married to it 100%. Could be persuaded.
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Old Sat Feb 07, 2015, 11:29pm
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I would probably go sideline, but not married to it 100%. Could be persuaded.
Endline, as violation took place on the basket side of the FT circle.
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