A rare positive experience with a coach...

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

In the 4th he was guarding the ball in my primary. He put his hand out to measure up and I said "hands" to him.

Why would you do that? By rule he gets one touch to measure up. I don't understand why a legal action warrants a verbal comment from an official. Do you also say "pivot" when a player does that?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Why would you do that? By rule he gets one touch to measure up. I don't understand why a legal action warrants a verbal comment from an official. Do you also say "pivot" when a player does that?

I agree. I don't care for the "We'll talk you out of fouls" mentality. Just blow the whistle early in the game if something needs cleaned up and they will adjust. If not, they won't be around long.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Why would you do that? By rule he gets one touch to measure up. I don't understand why a legal action warrants a verbal comment from an official. Do you also say "pivot" when a player does that?

Agreed. I have found that I talk less and less to players over the years. There are situations where you can do some preventive officiating and talk players out of stuff but you have to choose your words and timing wisely.

"Hands" is something I may have said a few times years ago but I eliminated after I've seen it get people in trouble. Particularly with the 10-12 rule addition. I even sometimes pre-game against using it.

What happens when you say "hands" to a player and the opposing coach hears it? The coach can then say "if his hands are on him then call the foul." Or when you call a hand check or illegal use of hands on his team he can asks "where was my warning."

If the hand use is legal then we have nothing to say, if it's illegal then blow your whistle. Trying to talk a player out of this while the ball is live has little to no upside and plenty of downside.

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Agreed. I have found that I talk less and less to players over the years. There are situations where you can do some preventive officiating and talk players out of stuff but you have to choose your words and timing wisely.

"Hands" is something I may have said a few times years ago but I eliminated after I've seen it get people in trouble. Particularly with the 10-12 rule addition. I even sometimes pre-game against using it.

What happens when you say "hands" to a player and the opposing coach hears it? The coach can then say "if his hands are on him then call the foul." Or when you call a hand check or illegal use of hands on his team he can asks "where was my warning."

If the hand use is legal then we have nothing to say, if it's illegal then blow your whistle. Trying to talk a player out of this while the ball is live has little to no upside and plenty of downside.

I'm with you, talk with your whistle.

[Smitty]

I may be in the minority but I still think verbalizing early with players to let them know they are on the verge of doing something illegal is a useful part of our job. If we can talk kids out of things, I think it helps the game. Certainly most situations resolve themselves with a whistle, but I don't think it's preposterous (as Nevada seems to feel) to say "hands" sometimes. I think it's silly to equate that to saying "pivot". It's more like telling kids to get out of the lane, which is fairly common.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Why would you do that? By rule he gets one touch to measure up. I don't understand why a legal action warrants a verbal comment from an official. Do you also say "pivot" when a player does that?

Please, help me out. Have I read that in the book and just didn't let it sink in?

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Why would you do that? By rule he gets one touch to measure up. I don't understand why a legal action warrants a verbal comment from an official. Do you also say "pivot" when a player does that?

I said it to just remind him to take his hand back and that is all he gets. Even though it is legal now it will be illegal if he doesn't pull it back.
Do you never talk to the players or just in other cases? If so, what are they? I also try to talk them out of the lane even though they may not have been in there too long. What is the common practice on this?