Proper mirroring on a three-pointer...

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Rich

Here's the problem with 2 arms in the air marking a 3:

Are both officials taking that jump-shooter back to the floor?

An arm up tells me that official is responsible for the shooter up and down and I can focus on rebounding action. If they're both going up, who's watching rebounding? The L?

If both go up, the C should drop it and readjust his focus. Pregame this.

If this post had "Like" button I would click on it.

Another problem with it:
While four eyes were on the competive matchup over there, who was surveilling off-ball activity?
Other problems exist "with it", but I'll let others contribute now that I've over-spoken on the issue.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Freddy

If this post had "Like" button I would click on it.

Another problem with it:
While four eyes were on the competive matchup over there, who was surveilling off-ball activity?
Other problems exist "with it", but I'll let others contribute now that I've over-spoken on the issue.

If it's in the gray area between coverages, I get it. Most of us can mark a 3-pointer without actually staring at the shooter. But the crew needs to have some way of saying to each other, "I got the shooter....go do something else."

When I'm the C, I tend to give the T first crack at putting the arm up...but if he doesn't and the shooter's obviously behind the line...I'll put mine up and then I have to take the shooter back to the floor.

As the C, I think too many of us are in a hurry to mark 3s and in a hurry to start closely guarded counts. Let the trail take ALL of those in a gray area close to the 60/40 line. The C is much more useful as an off-ball official.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Rich

Here's the problem with 2 arms in the air marking a 3:

Are both officials taking that jump-shooter back to the floor?

An arm up tells me that official is responsible for the shooter up and down and I can focus on rebounding action. If they're both going up, who's watching rebounding? The L?

If both go up, the C should drop it and readjust his focus. Pregame this.

Originally Posted by Rich

If it's in the gray area between coverages, I get it. Most of us can mark a 3-pointer without actually staring at the shooter. But the crew needs to have some way of saying to each other, "I got the shooter....go do something else."

When I'm the C, I tend to give the T first crack at putting the arm up...but if he doesn't and the shooter's obviously behind the line...I'll put mine up and then I have to take the shooter back to the floor.

As the C, I think too many of us are in a hurry to mark 3s and in a hurry to start closely guarded counts. Let the trail take ALL of those in a gray area close to the 60/40 line. The C is much more useful as an off-ball official.

I can't like these two posts enough. If two guys are marking a three point try (Whether 2 or 3-whistle), someone isn't watching a lot of other things going on.

[HokiePaul]

Question on this ... You are supposed to stay with a matchup if you have started a closely guarded count. I always assumed that this include marking a shot attempt as your partner may be looking elsewhere. But maybe that is a bad assumption. If you continue a count out of your primary, would any of you mark a 3 pt attempt or do you assume that the matchup (and marking of a 3 pt attempt) gets passed off as soon as the dribble ends?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Question on this ... You are supposed to stay with a matchup if you have started a closely guarded count. I always assumed that this include marking a shot attempt as your partner may be looking elsewhere. But maybe that is a bad assumption. If you continue a count out of your primary, would any of you mark a 3 pt attempt or do you assume that the matchup (and marking of a 3 pt attempt) gets passed off as soon as the dribble ends?

I'd (try to) know where my partner was looking and use that to determine it. And, if we both start to mark it, then I'd drop if it was clearly in my P's area.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Rich

If it's in the gray area between coverages, I get it. Most of us can mark a 3-pointer without actually staring at the shooter. But the crew needs to have some way of saying to each other, "I got the shooter....go do something else."

"...Go do something else." Absolute Quality!!! Ha!

[RedKillian]

I usually pre-game on a double mark by the C and T to let the T take the shooter but the C leaves his arm up and does not stay with the shooter but helps the L with rebounding action. A dropped 3 pt mark can lead to confusion. Was it really a 3 or not? Why did he drop his mark?

[Freddy]

Not to beat an expired equine, but if I were the AD hosting this game, I'd say to myself, "Why pay for three officials? I could pay for just two and still have too many eyes on the ball!"

Glad They Got This Covered



Any assigning pool or association that tolerates ballwatching like this ought not complain if their stakeholders abandon 3-person in favor of 2. It's their own flippin' fault.

[Freddy]

And here's the "Closely Guarded/Not"corollary to the topic at hand:

Battling Signals -- Who's Ballwatchin' Here?



Embarrassing. Ouch.