Foul or good block? (Video)

[bainsey]

Clean block and verticality. All legal.

[HokiePaul]

Looks like a clean block.

However, it is possible that the defenders arm made contact with the shooters head on the follow through. That's the only possible foul I could see here, and the lead would have been in a pretty good angle to see that type of contact.

I'm not going to say with certainty that its a terrible call unless I could see the angle from the other side.

[Bad Zebra]

Ouch...hate seeing these. Great position and body control by the defender. Almost a textbook block by a big guy who now has one extra foul to carry for the rest of the game. To echo what everyone has said...don't reach across. Trust your partner.

[Rich]

Again, how the HELL is this reaching across?

The defender is coming from behind and it's an opportunity for the T/C to come in with a foul if there is one and the L doesn't get it, but this is the L's primary. I don't see him calling across 2 lines here.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Rich

Again, how the HELL is this reaching across?

The defender is coming from behind and it's an opportunity for the T/C to come in with a foul if there is one and the L doesn't get it, but this is the L's primary. I don't see him calling across 2 lines here.

When the play started, Lead was past the edge of the opposite lane line. As the block occurs, he has traveled to the edge of the lane "pinching the paint" and more or less standing under the action. I contend that the C has a better view as he is (assumed to be) stationary looking into the play. The lead is moving as he makes the call....at least that's my analysis of the video. If you disagree that it's a reach, fine. Bottom line...there's no foul there.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

When the play started, Lead was past the edge of the opposite lane line. As the block occurs, he has traveled to the edge of the lane "pinching the paint" and more or less standing under the action. I contend that the C has a better view as he is (assumed to be) stationary looking into the play. The lead is moving as he makes the call....at least that's my analysis of the video. If you disagree that it's a reach, fine. Bottom line...there's no foul there.

I'm just trying to lay to rest the notion that this is reaching across the paint.

Reaching across means that the L is making a call outside the paint on the other side -- across 2 lines. In the lane, the L is primary. Doesn't mean the T/C stop working and get what's evident from their positions.

I'm not bothered by the L's positioning. He's moving, sure, but not exactly running in transition. He's closed down when the "foul" occurs -- he might have a better look being a step wider, actually.

The best part of 3-person is that you can trust the C/T to get the ones from behind if you don't get a great look, rather than guess through bodies. When my T/C come in with a foul, I always think (1) thank you and (2) could I have done something differently to get that one myself?

Originally Posted by Rich

In the lane, the L is primary.

I don't know about your three-person coverage diagram but mine shows Lead's primary ending in the middle of the lane. Both players in the video are on the far side of the basket ring from Lead, making this C's primary. Thus, Lead should not be calling across the lane and reaching into C's primary.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by Rich

Reaching across means that the L is making a call outside the paint on the other side -- across 2 lines. In the lane, the L is primary.

In my region, and according to the IAABO high school and NCAA-W manuals, the Lead's primary ends in the middle of the lane, and "reaching across" means calling on the Center's side of that lane and/or outside "across two lines."

This is close, and the Lead does appear to have a patient whistle, which is how I typically pregame the Lead calling on the Center's side of the lane or more: Give the Center the first shot at a foul that is absolutely there, then if they don't call it, and it needs to be called, get it with a cadence whistle a beat later.

All of that being said, in this particular play, incorrect call, etc. etc.