Elbow to the Nose

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Adam

He was swinging the elbow, so I went with an intentional personal. Not much room for PC on that, the way I understand the POE (or is it no longer valid?).

After reading the OP, I figured intentional, but there are guys I talk to who would consider Flagrant. Maybe this is just me (?) but for any elbow to go flagrant, I need to see some sort of intent from the elbower. I don't think it's good practice to look at the damage done and factor that in to intentional vs flagrant. From PC to intentional? Yes, I think that the result of that play can be used to upgrade. But if you have a 240-lb, 6-5 monster in there that elbows a guard on a swing or pivot in which he clearly didn't know the guard was there? Even if the result looks or seems bad, I'm probably staying at intentional.