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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:22am
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A shot at the opponents basket is not a try. Ball is dead on the foul.
Yep. Wipe the bucket, go to correct end and shoot bonus. Get both coaches together and explain what happened at the same time so you're not going to each separately.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:28am
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I know we scored it, so that's on us. . .

I know that in college, its a violation for a try at shooting at the wrong basket. . .

But, so even if there's no foul, the moment that a player goes for a try at the wrong basket, you just blow it dead?
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:21am
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I know we scored it, so that's on us. . .

I know that in college, its a violation for a try at shooting at the wrong basket. . .

But, so even if there's no foul, the moment that a player goes for a try at the wrong basket, you just blow it dead?
Still wrong. It is a violation to shoot at the wrong basket in the NBA.

Also, the impression that your first post gives is that you are a teenager because of the heavy usage of "like."
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 01:52am
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Still wrong. It is a violation to shoot at the wrong basket in the NBA.

Also, the impression that your first post gives is that you are a teenager because of the heavy usage of "like."
If it is true that Referee24.7 is indeed still a teenager that would mean that he would have had to join The Forum no older than 12 years, 1 month old.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:08am
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I don't think that he is, but his diction comes across that way. I've learned that speaking and writing in an immature manner doesn't create a positive impression in the professional world.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:47am
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And then there's this...

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Back in the day when I was officiating HS
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 08:16am
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Your only mistake was counting the bucket. The ball becomes dead at the time of the infraction unless it's in flight on a try.

By rule a try is a legal attempt at one's own basket so this isn't a try. Ball is dead at the time of the infraction so no points scored. Also the max anyone can score on an opponents basket is 2 points.

Other than that you were right to shoot 1&1. In my old association, in a televised game, with an official that moved up way faster than he was ready to (plus his partner is also to blame) had a game winning shot at the buzzer on the wrong basket.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:16pm
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Since the shot by green was at the wrong basket, it is not... by rule... a shot attempt. Therefore the foul does indeed kill the play, meaning that anything that happens after that doesn't count. The basket happened after the foul, so the basket does not count.

However, in this case, the foul would lead to a bonus free throw. Basically, it's treated just like any other common foul. The fact that green was in the shooting motion means nothing.

BTW, if it wasn't for the foul by white, the not-actually-a-shot by green would lead to two points for white (no player would get credit for the points, just a footnote on how white got those two extra points).
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2015, 11:09am
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I don't think that he is, but his diction comes across that way. I've learned that speaking and writing in an immature manner doesn't create a positive impression in the professional world.
So what? Does his diction make his points any less valid? And FYI we're not in the professional world here Nevada.
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Old Wed Jan 28, 2015, 12:22am
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But, so even if there's no foul, the moment that a player goes for a try at the wrong basket, you just blow it dead?
If a player "throws" the ball and it goes in the opponents basket the two points count. This could be from an errant/tipped pass or if they accidentally shoot at the wrong basket.

As already pointed out, even if said throw by Team A was from beyond the 3 point line it would only count as two. Even if it was tipped by a Team B player its just two points since this is still not a try.
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