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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:30pm
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He slides after he ends his dribble. I would call this travel 100 out of a 100 times.
I don't see a slide. I mean no one can actually stop on a dime.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:38pm
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I don't see a slide. I mean no one can actually stop on a dime.
If he can't stop, he's not ready for this move.

Some call a travel when the pivot goes up, just like some send the players behind half court for technical foul free throws.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:39pm
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I don't see a slide. I mean no one can actually stop on a dime.
Those 2 sentences are making the opposite points. On one hand you say there is no slide. On the other hand, you say no can stop without sliding.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:19pm
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Those 2 sentences are making the opposite points. On one hand you say there is no slide. On the other hand, you say no can stop without sliding.
I'm saying the slide that you see is so miniscule if there, I think it's splitting hairs.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:22pm
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I see a legal move but possible there was a drag. But that being said, I would encourage refs to familiarize themselves when some of these post moves when the player is jumping off the non-pivot foot. These can easily be called travels. 110 mark


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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:23pm
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I wouldn't have a call on this play.

Based on when the official's hand is raised, I don't think the travel call was based on the initial stop.

Perhaps the official thought the pivot foot came down before the ball was released.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:34pm
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People will probably disagree with me, but I think we're all focusing on the wrong foot as the pivot foot here. Watch carefully when the player ends the dribble (gathers). At that moment, the right foot is flat on the ground and the left foot is either in the air or the left toe is barely touching. Assuming the C/new T thought the left foot was airborne, if he judges the right foot to be the pivot then it's an easy travel call.

That said, I don't like the official's mechanics. For one thing he appears lackadaisical. On another note, with the L rotating while a play is going on right in front of him, he shouldn't be in a hurry to move up and away from that play. Nothing wrong with two Cs at times.

The game is always going toward the basket because the last time I checked, that's where you score. Yet many of us, especially during a 3-man rotation, are eager to move away from what we're officiating. Yeah, we're gonna get beat in transition once in a while. So what? I'd rather be in the right position 95% of the time if it means getting beat the other 5%.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:48pm
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BNR nailed it. He moved the pivot several inches before the move to the basket.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:52pm
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BNR nailed it. He moved the pivot several inches before the move to the basket.
I see the drag early in the move, but the official's arm isn't raised until well after that.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:54pm
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I see the drag early in the move, but the official's arm isn't raised until well after that.
Sometimes it takes a second or two to digest what you have seen. The whole clip is only 3 seconds, so I find this lag? on the whistle acceptable.
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 06:50pm
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it is also possible, that since the left foot dragged, the official deemed the right foot as the pivot foot and called the violation when the right foot was replanted
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Old Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:49pm
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I saw that too and it may be right. But I don't have an issue with his movement or his position. I don't think you can tell by one play. Always about the whole picture.
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