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[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The case book says otherwise:

i have random rule books lying around. in the 1999 book the Rule is 3-3-5 and it says "beckoned and/or" as opposed to just AND as it says now. In the 2007/08 rule book it also has and/or. im not sure when the rule was changed but the /or was removed. the 2013/14 rule also says AND. They likely changed the rule wording and forgot to change case play wording....or changed rule wording by mistake.....

if the player is ready in the example i gave and the coach doesn't want to come out i'm not going to make the player leave or burn a TO because i waived my arm early....thx

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

i have random rule books lying around. in the 1999 book the Rule is 3-3-5 and it says "beckoned and/or" as opposed to just AND as it says now. In the 2007/08 rule book it also has and/or. im not sure when the rule was changed but the /or was removed. the 2013/14 rule also says AND. They likely changed the rule wording and forgot to change case play wording....or changed rule wording by mistake.....

if the player is ready in the example i gave and the coach doesn't want to come out i'm not going to make the player leave or burn a TO because i waived my arm early....thx

I'm slow to beckon. I have even put a hand up and tried to hold the coach back a second (not long) if I think the player can recover so the coach isn't forced to choose between a sub and a TO.

If I've beckoned the coach, I'm following the rule whether he comes out or not.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

If I've beckoned the coach, I'm following the rule whether he (coach) comes out or not.

(Note: My parenthesis added above.)

Just beckoned? Which rule? The rule as noted in the rulebook? Or the rule as noted in the casebook?

(Sorry Adam. I'm not mad at you, and I shouldn't take it out on you, but I'm still pissed at the stupid NFHS. Really pissed.)

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm slow to beckon. I have even put a hand up and tried to hold the coach back a second (not long) if I think the player can recover so the coach isn't forced to choose between a sub and a TO.

If I've beckoned the coach, I'm following the rule whether he comes out or not.

i think we are trying to figure out the exact rule. it used to be in the rule book and/or. if you did either player replaced or TO. case book was same. now rule book says beckoned AND enters. case book not changed. Is it a mistake in the rule book or did they announce a change as Billy suggested and just forget to change the case book? we know that happens from time to time.