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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:25pm
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What say you on this dunk? (Video)

This happened last night: North Olmsted H.S. at Westlake H.S. I do not know who are the officials.

http://yahoo.thepostgame.com/blog/cl...ssover-dribble



I have a PC foul on the dunker followed by a TF on the dunker for taunting.

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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:49pm
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I've got a no call and tech for taunting.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:51pm
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I've got a no call and tech for taunting.

There is no such thing as a no call either you judged that there was an infraction of the rules or there was an infraction of the rules.

Therefore, why did you decide that there was no infraction of the rules by either the offensive the player or the defensive player?

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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:53pm
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There is no such thing as a no call either you judged that there was an infraction of the rules or there was an infraction of the rules.
Wtf? We're done here Mark.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:58pm
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Wtf? We're done here Mark.

I assume that you know who Peter Webb is. Peter Webb would ask you the very same question. A no call implies that there was an infraction of the rules but the officials decided not to call it.

Therefore why did not feel that there was no infraction by either the offensive player or the defensive player.

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Old Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:08am
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I assume that you know who Peter Webb is. Peter Webb would ask you the very same question. A no call implies that there was an infraction of the rules but the officials decided not to call it.
No, but by your description he sounds like the kind of asshøle official who would insist on "only using rulebook language."

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Therefore why did not feel that there was no infraction by either the offensive player or the defensive player.
Is that a question?
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2015, 06:02am
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I assume that you know who Peter Webb is. Peter Webb would ask you the very same question. A no call implies that there was an infraction of the rules but the officials decided not to call it.

Therefore why did not feel that there was no infraction by either the offensive player or the defensive player.

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A no call implies he wouldn't put a whistle on the play...period. You can have a no call for a variety of reasons...those reasons can be valid or not valid. You've been around this forum long enough to know that
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2015, 02:09pm
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I assume that you know who Peter Webb is. Peter Webb would ask you the very same question. A no call implies that there was an infraction of the rules but the officials decided not to call it.

Therefore why did not feel that there was no infraction by either the offensive player or the defensive player.

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Mark, to the rest of us, a "no call" means there's nothing to call.
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A no call implies that there was an infraction of the rules but the officials decided not to call it.
No … that is a missed call.

A “no call” in officiating vernacular means “I don’t have a call on that play” … or, in a way you might prefer, “I judged that there was not an infraction of the rules”

This is pretty much accepted by everyone.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:57pm
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There is no such thing as a no call either you judged that there was an infraction of the rules or there was an infraction of the rules.

Therefore, why did you decide that there was no infraction of the rules by either the offensive the player or the defensive player?

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Cause there wasn't - not before the taunt, anyway.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:58pm
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Cause there wasn't - not before the taunt, anyway.
There wasn't what?

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There wasn't what?

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I don't presume to speak for Rich, but I believe he's saying that, other than the taunt, there was no infraction of the rules.


There seems to be an inexplicable communication gap here.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2015, 12:11am
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I have a two-point goal scored by Black #41 followed by an unsporting player technical foul on Black #41 for taunting an opponent.
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There is no such thing as a no call either you judged that there was an infraction of the rules or there was an infraction of the rules.
This is what happens when you post after your bedtime.
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Old Thu Jan 22, 2015, 07:57am
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Nevada, that was great. Mark, you've got to be at least smiling if not lol.
Also, I know the lead official on that play. He is an excellent official and I'm
sure he regrets taking his eye off the play to grab the ball. Which just goes to show . . . it can happen.
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