Shooter for pregame technical foul shots

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Ouch. Back to freshman ball for you. This is a rule that just about every official knows. See 3-2-2a.

While I'm sure just about every official, myself included, knows that even a substitute can shoot the free throws for a technical foul, I doubt that just about every official was aware of how that would work for a technical that occurred before the game started.

I guess the varsity teams on my schedule will suffer... sorry.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

While I'm sure just about every official, myself included, knows that even a substitute can shoot the free throws for a technical foul, I doubt that just about every official was aware of how that would work for a technical that occurred before the game started.

I guess the varsity teams on my schedule will suffer... sorry.

Just treat it as a normal substitution situation. A starter has been subbed out, therefore he cannot enter the game until the clock has been legally started.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Just treat it as a normal substitution situation. A starter has been subbed out, therefore he cannot enter the game until the clock has been legally started.

Yeah, that makes sense. I just wasn't aware of a team being able to substitute a player before the game started/ball was made live. It seemed to fall under the "changing a designated starter" rule. Little did I know it was an exception, just like a player that is injured or whatever.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Yeah, that makes sense. I just wasn't aware of a team being able to substitute a player before the game started/ball was made live. It seemed to fall under the "changing a designated starter" rule. Little did I know it was an exception, just like a player that is injured or whatever.

Once the technical foul is recorded, the game has effectively started.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Once the technical foul is recorded, the game has effectively started.

Somewhat, but not actually true. Strictly speaking, the game doesn't start until the ball first becomes live per 5-6-1.
Your comment is akin to saying that the game has effectively started when the officials take the floor because their jurisdiction has begun and they may penalize illegal actions.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Somewhat, but not actually true. Strictly speaking, the game doesn't start until the ball first becomes live per 5-6-1.
Your comment is akin to saying that the game has effectively started when the officials take the floor because their jurisdiction has begun and they may penalize illegal actions.

That is why I said "effectively". A foul has been recorded in the book. For the purpose of substituting, it has effectively started and that is back up by the case plays saying a starter can be legally substituted for in order to shoot the T. It has not technically since the ball must become live, but that isn't what I said.

[j51969]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

While I'm sure just about every official, myself included, knows that even a substitute can shoot the free throws for a technical foul, I doubt that just about every official was aware of how that would work for a technical that occurred before the game started.

I guess the varsity teams on my schedule will suffer... sorry.

Plus if he's starting 5 guys that can't shoot a free throw he's got bigger problems then an official kicking a substitution rule.