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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 09:01am
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The NCAA Men's Rule is a stupid rule and is based upon the NBA/WNBA rule. I could never undstand the logic (oh wait, how silly of me to expect the Rules Comittee to use logic) behind the change especially if the injury was caused by a foul of the injured player's opponent.

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The rule was made in response to teams allegedly faking injuries to get poor free throw shooters off the line.

If the foul is an FF1 or FF2, the defense does not get to choose the shooter.

Also, it is not a requirement for the injured player to leave the game, that's what really stupid. The first year the rule was instituted there was a game between Kansas/Kentucky, I believe, in which the fouled player couldn't shoot, but he didn't leave the game. I wrote one of my D3 supervisors about that situation and he reiterated that there was no requirement in the rule that the injured player had to leave the game.
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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 09:15am
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The rule was made in response to teams allegedly faking injuries to get poor free throw shooters off the line.

If the foul is an FF1 or FF2, the defense does not get to choose the shooter.

Also, it is not a requirement for the injured player to leave the game, that's what really stupid. The first year the rule was instituted there was a game between Kansas/Kentucky, I believe, in which the fouled player couldn't shoot, but he didn't leave the game. I wrote one of my D3 supervisors about that situation and he reiterated that there was no requirement in the rule that the injured player had to leave the game.

I know why, but I just do not buy the implication that so many teams were faking injuries to warrent a change. Lets face it, there are so many coaches that think that a defender has to be "set" to draw a charge, to you think those same coaches are smart enough to have their players fake injuries.

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Old Wed Jan 21, 2015, 10:19am
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I suspect it was a real issue in the NBA way back when they made that rule -- they faked injuries to use the silly "injury timeout" that the NBA had, why wouldn't they do it to get Wilt off the FT line? (And it was a long time ago that the NBA put that in -- I recall a referee applying that rule to a jr high game I played 30+ years ago. . . A bit unseemly as the junior high is allowed to walk up and down our bench to guess who the worst shooter would be . . .) For college, it does seem to me to be a solution looking for a problem -- but I wouldn't be surprised if the proposed change came about because someone was convinced the other team did exactly that -- anyone know the history?
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