Fight video

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by deecee

I make it a habit of generally weird looking contact and calls to come in with a hard whistle and get right into the players. I also do this for any crashes, hard contact, etc. I blow and stand right between them, that calms them down. But for christ sake do not blow and just start walking towards the table. blow, freeze, assess then either walk to the table to close down, but be quick about it and defuse.

I've had players look at each other crossly after a hard foul, so I'll close in to about 3-4 feet and even say "easy" so the players know I'm close by and watching--and ready to address or penalize any extracurriculars if need be.

Regarding the video, the center official seemed totally oblivious to the contact that happened right in front of him. I have to agree that stepping in to get the foul on White #4 could have helped minimize the chance the brouhaha even occurred.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Regarding the video, the center official seemed totally oblivious to the contact that happened right in front of him. I have to agree that stepping in to get the foul on White #4 could have helped minimize the chance the brouhaha even occurred.

That is because he couldn't see the initial forearm chuck from where he is standing. He is too low and gets straight-lined. Put him a step above the FTE and he has a quality look at this contact. Positioning and angles make all the difference.
While I'm on that point the T is way too high and not connected to the play. He can't help the C from way out there and that is the secondary failure here. Put him down around the 28-foot line and he will be far more comfortable whistling the contact just inside the FT lane.

PS Finally a fight video of an actual fight! That was a true melee.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

I've had players look at each other crossly after a hard foul, so I'll close in to about 3-4 feet and even say "easy" so the players know I'm close by and watching--and ready to address or penalize any extracurriculars if need be.

Regarding the video, the center official seemed totally oblivious to the contact that happened right in front of him. I have to agree that stepping in to get the foul on White #4 could have helped minimize the chance the brouhaha even occurred.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That is because he couldn't see the initial forearm chuck from where he is standing. He is too low and gets straight-lined. Put him a step above the FTE and he has a quality look at this contact. Positioning and angles make all the difference.
While I'm on that point the T is way too high and not connected to the play. He can't help the C from way out there and that is the secondary failure here. Put him down around the 28-foot line and he will be far more comfortable whistling the contact just inside the FT lane.

PS Finally a fight video of an actual fight! That was a true melee.

Even with bad positioning, the C is oblivious to the first couple of blows also. That a total lack of game awareness.

I've been working hard all season on staying connected to plays as the Trail, and using the 28' line as my home base.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That is because he couldn't see the initial forearm chuck from where he is standing. He is too low and gets straight-lined. Put him a step above the FTE and he has a quality look at this contact. Positioning and angles make all the difference.
While I'm on that point the T is way too high and not connected to the play. He can't help the C from way out there and that is the secondary failure here. Put him down around the 28-foot line and he will be far more comfortable whistling the contact just inside the FT lane.

PS Finally a fight video of an actual fight! That was a true melee.

Look at the C's head he is not even looking at his primary when the first two potential fouls happen, he is staring at the throw in spot.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

Look at the C's head he is not even looking at his primary when the first two potential fouls happen, he is staring at the throw in spot.

He is never really looking at those players. That's why I am not convinced he is even calling a foul. Pretty sure he is calling something to do with the clock.

Also...watch the C during the fight. He grabs onto one player and holds him almost the entire time. Not a smart move there, either.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

He is never really looking at those players. That's why I am not convinced he is even calling a foul. Pretty sure he is calling something to do with the clock.

Also...watch the C during the fight. He grabs onto one player and holds him almost the entire time. Not a smart move there, either.

That's what I thought. He appears to be watching the throw-in as it is happening, then casually strolls across the court with an open hand.