161-2

[Pantherdreams]

Not saying this is the case.

If the coach played his bench kids (when it was clear to see the game was out of reach - which was probably well before half time), if they stopped pressing, and theycan still win by 100 or 150 or whatever. I don't think the coach of the winning team can be faulted.

I don't see a team playing keep away (with or without a shot clock) or not letting your bench kids run the floor to score, take layups or defend properly fair or equitable either. THey are bad so, so you have to be bad isn't right. You can work on your quarter court zone or whatever. If you bench kids get a chance to play and score its on the other coach to have 5 kids better then your worst 5.

At the point where everyone possible is in the game, you've backed your defense up to quarter court and given them the opportunity to execute 5 on 5: thats it they've met their obligation to sportsmanship. Holding the ball or letting the other team shoot should be more embarassing to kids on the floor then being beaten or scored on. . . . I would think.

In the case in the OP it sounds like the game was well on its way to out of hand well before half time so the starters IMO should have been out way before then. No mention of whether pressing happened to what extent but to get that many possessions even against a bad team you can assume they pressed most of the game. So I'm not defending the coach just talking about the situation as a generality.

[Pantherdreams]

http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/...-to-be-learned

Link above brings a little more clarity and probably a lot less sympathy for the winning coach.

Highlights:

- was up 104-1 at half time before the starters were pulled.
- Pressed and trapped full court or half court all game.
- Running clock after the first quarter.
- Bench players held the ball on offense for 23 of 30 second shot clock before shootingin the 2nd half.
- Of 15 exhibition games scheduled record is 14-1 with wins that include 98, 80 and 3 in the 70' as well.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BigCat

The score was 161-2. let me REPEAT that 161-2. there is no reason EVER to win a game by 159 points…they should have stopped at 100..:roll eyes:

when one team is that bad it is not competition. none of the players on the winning team are going to get better at basketball or learn anything about Xs and 0s from that mess. including bench players. so take the time to teach a life lesson--lesson being that it isn't necessary to utterly destroy someone else just because you can…

i understand your point--but it was 161-2...

How's this for a life lesson, if you are so bad at basketball that you are going to get beat 161-2, then maybe you should find something else to do with your time because you cannot play basketball. Or would you rather have them grow up thinking they can be anything they want including a professional basketball player, instead of realizing not everyone has the ability to be a rocket scientist.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by johnny d

How's this for a life lesson, if you are so bad at basketball that you are going to get beat 161-2, then maybe you should find something else to do with your time because you cannot play basketball. Or would you rather have them grow up thinking they can be anything they want including a professional basketball player, instead of realizing not everyone has the ability to be a rocket scientist.

Well Johnny,

I have to say I was only thinking about the lesson to the winning team--im not a rocket scientist…there are definitely some lessons to be learned for the losing side as well. i'm ok with them growing up thinking they can be anything, including a professional basketball player…in fact, id want them to dream... even if they are losing 161-2. i would, however, be sure to emphasize the need for a "fallback option"…just in case the NBA didn't work out…

we've made our points--in the word of Jrut--Peace

[JRutledge]

One more reason to never work girls basketball.

Peace

Originally Posted by johnny d

How's this for a life lesson, if you are so bad at basketball that you are going to get beat 161-2, then maybe you should find something else to do with your time because you cannot play basketball. Or would you rather have them grow up thinking they can be anything they want including a professional basketball player, instead of realizing not everyone has the ability to be a rocket scientist.

More importantly, they should never have scheduled this game.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by AremRed

More importantly, they should never have scheduled this game.

If it's a conference game (this time of year it likely was), they had no choice.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by johnny d

How's this for a life lesson, if you are so bad at basketball that you are going to get beat 161-2, then maybe you should find something else to do with your time because you cannot play basketball. Or would you rather have them grow up thinking they can be anything they want including a professional basketball player, instead of realizing not everyone has the ability to be a rocket scientist.

HS basketball is not a pro basketball development league.

And the winning coach should get suspended for being extremely tone deaf.

Wouldn't happen here -- with a running clock, I would be as pokey as possible on every dead ball.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rich

HS basketball is not a pro basketball development league.

And the winning coach should get suspended for being extremely tone deaf.

Wouldn't happen here -- with a running clock, I would be as pokey as possible on every dead ball.

There's no life lesson here for anyone - unless you are a total a$$hole out to prove that some school shouldn't have a basketball team because they are bad.

And the running clock part is what I really don't understand. The article says that the running clock kicked in after the first quarter...no possible way a team should be scoring that many points with 3/4 of the game being running clock. Like Rich says, I am finding ways to be really slow at everything we do.

[Matt S.]

Originally Posted by johnny d

I don't see a problem with this, especially if the winning coach was playing his bench players. Why should those players who rarely ever see the court be told not to try to score or play defense in a game where they are getting a lot of playing time. The losing coach should stop whining like a baby and coach his team to play better. Now if the winning coach has his starters in and is full court pressing for the entire game, someone might want to have a talk with him.

Johnny, I don't know who you are but I certainly hope you're being sarcastic. There is no place for an outcome like this in interscholastic athletics...and according to the article, this isn't the first time this coach has run up the score.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

An update
http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/...ter-161-2-loss

My commentary on this is in the lower part of the article-below the advertisement.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

An update
http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/...ter-161-2-loss

My commentary on this is in the lower part of the article-below the advertisement.

I do not like the things that officials would be telling teams to do so the game would not be forfeited. That is not our role. I do not care how they play the game as long as teams are not doing unsporting things and playing defense properly is not unsporting behavior.

Peace

[SCalScoreKeeper]

That was my point exactly decee-
This game should never have been scheduled in the first place.Either AD had the opportunity to stop this by saying no to the contract.Still doesn't excuse 161-2.

JRut- I completely agree with you.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

An update
http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/...ter-161-2-loss

My commentary on this is in the lower part of the article-below the advertisement.

Two thoughts as I read this article...

1) No way do I believe the Coach who said refs threatened a forfeit if his teams didn't play defense in a blow-out. Not buying that for a second.

2) Love the Coach who says a 159 point blow-out is out of line, but was OK with his 103 point blow-out earlier this season. Yeah...159 is totally ridiculous, but 103 is just a normal game.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

This is clearly not a conference game JRut- the league of the winning team starts Tomorrow night.