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[Nevadaref]

A HS game in CA has 32 minutes of playing time. There is a 30 second shot clock and no 10 second count in the backcourt for girls games.
There is also a running clock mercy rule if the lead is 40+ points in the 4th quarter.

To score 161 a team would need to score an average of 5 points each minute.
Does anyone think they weren't playing full-court defense?

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A HS game in CA has 32 minutes of playing time. There is a 30 second shot clock and no 10 second count in the backcourt for girls games.
There is also a running clock mercy rule if the lead is 40+ points in the 4th quarter.

To score 161 a team would need to score an average of 5 points each minute.
Does anyone think they weren't playing full-court defense?

My guess would be that they averaged closer to 6 or 7 pts per minute in the first half with starters (and full court press), and 3 or 4 points per minute in the second half with backups and no backcourt press. If they were pressing into the second half then I would have to agree with the losing coach that sportsmanship was not demonstrated.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Does anyone think they weren't playing full-court defense?

I had a team this year up 30 and pressing, legally. I was not happy, but there's nothing you can do.

Conversely, I had another game in which a team was up 30, and they threw the ball around for about two minutes. When the coach saw enough, and he wanted to get subs in, instead of calling time out, he just had the ball dumped out of bounds. That was a better day.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I had a team this year up 30 and pressing, legally. I was not happy, but there's nothing you can do.

Conversely, I had another game in which a team was up 30, and they threw the ball around for about two minutes. When the coach saw enough, and he wanted to get subs in, instead of calling time out, he just had the ball dumped out of bounds. That was a better day.

With a 40 point mercy rule, I think it's a commonly accepted sportsmanship practice to play starters, press, whatever until the 40 point mark is reached. At that point, the press should be immediately pulled, and subs should start coming in. Even though the game is in hand, I actually think it's more merciful to keep pushing to 40, rather than dragging it out.

It's like an old dog that's suffering, sometimes it's better to just put them out of their misery...

[pfan1981]

Had a boys game last year that was not close and the schools did not like each other. Running clock in the fourth.....winning team was trying to get to a hundred with starters mostly in. Insert the officiating crew, got together at the first timeout and agreed to take our time. I know that may not be popular with some of you and that's OK. They finished with 94 points and had the ball on offense for each possession for at most ten seconds, obviously trying to embarrass the other team. On free throws they immediately shot the ball the second they received it. I just wanted to paint a picture of how obvious and unsportsmanlike it was.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Conversely, I had another game in which a team was up 30, and they threw the ball around for about two minutes. When the coach saw enough, and he wanted to get subs in, instead of calling time out, he just had the ball dumped out of bounds. That was a better day.

I woulda been furious to see this charity thrown my way. Like other people said this is way more embarassing. I've called timeout up by alot late and told the officials it's a substitution timeout only. I don't even talk to my players.

Originally Posted by bainsey

I was not happy, but there's nothing you can do.

Yes there is, call fouls.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yes there is, call fouls.

You apparently missed the part where I said the team was pressing LEGALLY. We indeed were looking, but I'm not going to create phantom fouls to make a point.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A HS game in CA has 32 minutes of playing time. There is a 30 second shot clock and no 10 second count in the backcourt for girls games.
There is also a running clock mercy rule if the lead is 40+ points in the 4th quarter.

To score 161 a team would need to score an average of 5 points each minute.
Does anyone think they weren't playing full-court defense?

I was going to make this point. How do you score 5 points per minute if you're "waiting until late in the shot clock to shoot"????

[deecee]

Sometimes there is only so much you can do and one team is just so much worse. Sucks for everyone involved but that's life. Maybe these teams shouldn't play each other.