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when one team is that bad it is not competition. none of the players on the winning team are going to get better at basketball or learn anything about Xs and 0s from that mess. including bench players. so take the time to teach a life lesson--lesson being that it isn't necessary to utterly destroy someone else just because you can… i understand your point--but it was 161-2... |
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Not saying this is the case.
If the coach played his bench kids (when it was clear to see the game was out of reach - which was probably well before half time), if they stopped pressing, and theycan still win by 100 or 150 or whatever. I don't think the coach of the winning team can be faulted. I don't see a team playing keep away (with or without a shot clock) or not letting your bench kids run the floor to score, take layups or defend properly fair or equitable either. THey are bad so, so you have to be bad isn't right. You can work on your quarter court zone or whatever. If you bench kids get a chance to play and score its on the other coach to have 5 kids better then your worst 5. At the point where everyone possible is in the game, you've backed your defense up to quarter court and given them the opportunity to execute 5 on 5: thats it they've met their obligation to sportsmanship. Holding the ball or letting the other team shoot should be more embarassing to kids on the floor then being beaten or scored on. . . . I would think. In the case in the OP it sounds like the game was well on its way to out of hand well before half time so the starters IMO should have been out way before then. No mention of whether pressing happened to what extent but to get that many possessions even against a bad team you can assume they pressed most of the game. So I'm not defending the coach just talking about the situation as a generality.
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http://www.dailybulletin.com/sports/...-to-be-learned
Link above brings a little more clarity and probably a lot less sympathy for the winning coach. Highlights: - was up 104-1 at half time before the starters were pulled. - Pressed and trapped full court or half court all game. - Running clock after the first quarter. - Bench players held the ball on offense for 23 of 30 second shot clock before shootingin the 2nd half. - Of 15 exhibition games scheduled record is 14-1 with wins that include 98, 80 and 3 in the 70' as well.
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I have to say I was only thinking about the lesson to the winning team--im not a rocket scientist…there are definitely some lessons to be learned for the losing side as well. i'm ok with them growing up thinking they can be anything, including a professional basketball player…in fact, id want them to dream... even if they are losing 161-2. i would, however, be sure to emphasize the need for a "fallback option"…just in case the NBA didn't work out… we've made our points--in the word of Jrut--Peace |
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One more reason to never work girls basketball.
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If it's a conference game (this time of year it likely was), they had no choice.
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Not all of our CIF-SS leagues start before Christmas (ours and a few of the larger ones do) and this was a non-league conference.A fact that newspaper writers here won't mention because AremRed stated the point that I put in a newspaper response-this game never should have been scheduled?
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I understand the concept of not running the score up on a team. I had the good fortune to play basketball for a H.S. that was the team to beat for the 21 years that my head coach was in charge. There were many years he had teams that he could have easily scored 100+ points in a game a couple of times a year. I played on his 17th, 18th, and 19th teams and I played on the first of his teams that finally scored 100 points in a game. We were up 56 to 20 at half time. My coach played his 2nd and 3rd stringers all of the 2nd half and did not press, and yet the 2nd and 3rd stringers hung 60 points on our opponent in the 2nd half. You can't tell the subs not to play hard. You just have to teach them to be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.
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And the running clock part is what I really don't understand. The article says that the running clock kicked in after the first quarter...no possible way a team should be scoring that many points with 3/4 of the game being running clock. Like Rich says, I am finding ways to be really slow at everything we do. |
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