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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 07:05pm
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Kentucky women's coach ejected (Video)

2:18 second half vs. South Carolina on ESPN. Matthew Mitchell wanted a foul call and was promptly whacked twice. I thought it was well-handled by the crew. The trail gave the first whack, then the lead walks over to help out and delivers the second.

This was about two minutes after one of Kentucky's best players suffered a dislocated ankle.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 07:15pm
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2:18 second half vs. South Carolina on ESPN. Matthew Mitchell wanted a foul call and was promptly whacked twice. I thought it was well-handled by the crew. The trail gave the first whack, then the lead walks over to help out and delivers the second.

This was about two minutes after one of Kentucky's best players suffered a dislocated ankle.

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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:09pm
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I watched this game as well. The dislocated ankle was pretty gruesome... Hope she heals up OK.

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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:33pm
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2:18 second half vs. South Carolina on ESPN. Matthew Mitchell wanted a foul call and was promptly whacked twice. I thought it was well-handled by the crew. The trail gave the first whack, then the lead walks over to help out and delivers the second.

This was about two minutes after one of Kentucky's best players suffered a dislocated ankle.
jeschmit, thanks for the vid!

Looks like the T and L actually issued the first TF at the same time (L might have even signaled it half a second earlier), but then the L realized T was right there and had it, so he gave it up.

Indeed, this left the door open for the second TF (well deserved) while T was reporting the first one. Meanwhile C kept an eye on the all of the players. Well handled by the crew.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 10:39pm
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Might be a foul on the drive but I don't see a foul on the rebound. Well handled by the crew and, I don't say this often, kudos to the coach for leaving right away and not making a scene.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2015, 02:07am
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I don't see any action warranting a second technical, but I can't hear the coach's words to the Lead. The first T is clear.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2015, 09:24am
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I don't see any action warranting a second technical, but I can't hear the coach's words to the Lead. The first T is clear.
That's kind of what I thought ... at least based on what sort of leeway college coaches are usually given. It seems after an initial T, if the coach stays put at their bench, they are usually given an opportunity to cool down (or a chance for assistants to step in and calm the coach down) before a second T.

But something could have been said. Although Coach seemed fine with being tossed and promptly left. Maybe he was looking for an early exit.
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:42am
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That's kind of what I thought ... at least based on what sort of leeway college coaches are usually given. It seems after an initial T, if the coach stays put at their bench, they are usually given an opportunity to cool down (or a chance for assistants to step in and calm the coach down) before a second T.

But something could have been said. Although Coach seemed fine with being tossed and promptly left. Maybe he was looking for an early exit.
I work on the men's side (not D1), but we are supervised by a prominent D1 official and we wouldn't give the 2nd T for that (unless the language was very bad and personally directed). I'd let the coach hang himself a little more. It is likely the conference and/or supervisor have told them to take care of business and they simply followed instruction. I also work a JUCO and NAIA league that would want the 2nd T issued that quick so it may be a when in Rome scenario.....
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2015, 06:41pm
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Do any of you believe that male coaches are more likely to lay into male officials than female officials, and thus more prone to getting technical fouls from male officials?
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Do any of you believe that male coaches are more likely to lay into male officials than female officials, and thus more prone to getting technical fouls from male officials?
I have found female coaches are more likely to confront me because they are already used to dealing with men bigger than them. That was back in the days when I used to still do girls games in high school.
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I have found female coaches are more likely to confront me because they are already used to dealing with men better than them. That was back in the days when I used to still do girls games in high school.
"...with men better than them" or did you mean better than women?
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Old Mon Jan 12, 2015, 09:46pm
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"...with men better than them" or did you mean better than women?
. Fixed it: bigger than them
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. Fixed it: bigger than them

Did you mean bigger than THEM or bigger than THEY? (I think the latter)
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Do any of you believe that male coaches are more likely to lay into male officials than female officials, and thus more prone to getting technical fouls from male officials?
Absolutely.
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I think 99% of us would not issue the second T unless there was something verbal. Given that these guys are where they are --- I think that leads to the obviously conclusion that there WAS something verbal. The assumption by many above that there was not, and the implication that therefore the officials were too quick on the second T --- well that's kind of obtuse, don't you think?
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