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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 08:00pm
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Traveling Violation
Player A1 has control of the ball with both feet on the floor. No pivot foot as been established. While swinging the ball to avoid the defense, player A1 looses his balance and falls toward the floor. A1 cradles the ball in one arm and puts his off hand on the floor to prevent falling over. Is this a violation?


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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 08:11pm
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Player A1 has control of the ball with both feet on the floor. No pivot foot as been established ... player A1 looses his balance and falls toward the floor. A1 cradles the ball in one arm and puts his off hand on the floor to prevent falling over. Is this a violation?
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4-44-5: A player holding the ball: a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:03pm
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4-44-5: A player holding the ball: a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.
...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:08pm
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...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 03:08pm
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No.

4-44-5: A player holding the ball: a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot.
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...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT

How are these two things related?
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 04:32pm
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Anatomy lesson . . .
Altho' the hand is sometimes considered "part of the ball - basketball -", the ball - basketball - is never considered part of the body . . .
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 04:38pm
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How are these two things related?
Rules meeting last night needed that clarification. Many think that the hand can touch but not the ball held in the hands.
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 04:45pm
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Rules meeting last night needed that clarification. Many think that the hand can touch but not the ball held in the hands.
Wow, and I thought that Mark and I were old! Way back in the 60's, when I played HS, to touch the floor with the ball was considered to be a dribble. So, if the ballhandler ended his dribble, and then while holding the ball, touched the ball to the floor, it was a double dribble. Or, if the ballhandler held the ball and touched the ball to the floor twice, you guessed it, that was considered to be a double dribble. Or, if the ballhandler touched the floor with the ball, and then started a conventional dribble, that was also a violation.
So, in your meeting, you must have had some very old officials, who don't read . . .
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Old Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:05pm
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Touches Ball To Floor ...
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...or ball. 4.15 COMMENT
4.15 COMMENT: It is not possible for a player to travel during a dribble. A player
is not dribbling while slapping the ball during a jump, when a pass rebounds
from his/her hand, when he/she fumbles, or when he/she bats a rebound or pass
away from other players who are attempting to get it. The player is not in control
under these conditions. It is a dribble when a player stands still and bounces the
ball. It is not a dribble when a player stands still and holds the ball and touches
it to the floor once or more than once.
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