Wrong Way to Start the 4th

[just another ref]

At any point at any level, when you realize A is attacking the wrong basket and B is defending that wrong basket, you whistle it dead and fix it.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by just another ref

At any point at any level, when you realize A is attacking the wrong basket and B is defending that wrong basket, you whistle it dead and fix it.

I disagree. There is no provision in the rules for us to stop the game when nothing has happened. When a violation has occurred, or a basket scored at the wrong hoop, then I will blow it dead and straighten things out.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I disagree. There is no provision in the rules for us to stop the game when nothing has happened. When a violation has occurred, or a basket scored at the wrong hoop, then I will blow it dead and straighten things out.

But something has happened. For some reason, everyone involved in the game has become disoriented. This is quite a significant thing.

4-5-4: If by mistake officials permit a team to go the wrong direction, when discovered all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. Play shall resume with each team going the proper direction based on bench location.



It says when discovered resume going the proper direction. You don't wait for any certain thing to happen before you stop the game.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by just another ref

But something has happened. For some reason, everyone involved in the game has become disoriented. This is quite a significant thing.

4-5-4: If by mistake officials permit a team to go the wrong direction, when discovered all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. Play shall resume with each team going the proper direction based on bench location.



It says when discovered resume going the proper direction. You don't wait for any certain thing to happen before you stop the game.

+1

MTD, Sr.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by just another ref

But something has happened. For some reason, everyone involved in the game has become disoriented. This is quite a significant thing.

4-5-4: If by mistake officials permit a team to go the wrong direction, when discovered all points scored, fouls committed, and time consumed shall count as if each team had gone the proper direction. Play shall resume with each team going the proper direction based on bench location.



It says when discovered resume going the proper direction. You don't wait for any certain thing to happen before you stop the game.

If by mistake the officials... In this scenario, or at least the one I'm referring to, the officials knew the correct direction. That article is to clarify what to do if players and officials screw up and it is not noticed until multiple trips up and down the court have occurred.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by frezer11

If by mistake the officials... In this scenario, or at least the one I'm referring to, the officials knew the correct direction. That article is to clarify what to do if players and officials screw up and it is not noticed until multiple trips up and down the court have occurred.

You'd have to give me all the details of your scenario.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by frezer11

If by mistake the officials... In this scenario, or at least the one I'm referring to, the officials knew the correct direction. That article is to clarify what to do if players and officials screw up and it is not noticed until multiple trips up and down the court have occurred.

You are correct. Such situations happen when the officials line the jumpers up facing the wrong directions. When the officials are aware and have followed the proper mechanics, yet the teams go the wrong direction a violation, foul, time-out request, or goal must occur in order for the officials to stop play.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by frezer11

If by mistake the officials... In this scenario, or at least the one I'm referring to, the officials knew the correct direction. That article is to clarify what to do if players and officials screw up and it is not noticed until multiple trips up and down the court have occurred.

Yes, we did know the correct direction. I'm with MTD Sr.'s assessment that my partner and I were 50% correct. First, if we were so aware of the situation, we should have had a violation of some sort. By not recognizing this, that is the point that we "made a mistake" in continuing to allow the teams to go the wrong direction. So once recognized at that point, we should have credited the stats that accumulated and corrected the disorientation. The basket that B scored at A's basket should have counted for B. Oops.

Thanks to all for the input. Very educational.