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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 12:54am
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NFHS R5-S6-A2, Exception 3 really means that the penalty (meaning FTs but excluding TIs) for a CE can be applied in the next Period if the CE Time Limit has not expired.

Right. As opposed to what YOU said.

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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 01:08am
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Right. As opposed to what YOU said.

I don't like the way the Rule is worded because CEs are not really penalties that are being carried over which as I stated in my tweaked play Team A does not receive the ball for a TI because it is part of the penalty for a IPF.

CEs are just that correcting an Error made by the Game Officials and the CE Rule only speaks in terms of Time Limits with not mention prohibiting the Time Limit spanning two Periods. That is why I do not like the wording of R5-6-S2, Exception 3. I guess I say tomaaato, and you say tomaahhto.

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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 01:21am
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I I guess I say tomaaato, and you say tomaahhto.

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We actually say tuh-may-ter. It's a Southern thing. You wouldn't understand.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 01:24am
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We actually say tuh-may-ter. It's a Southern thing. You wouldn't understand.

I like it and yes I would understand.

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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 04:26am
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I don't like the way the Rule is worded because CEs are not really penalties that are being carried over which as I stated in my tweaked play Team A does not receive the ball for a TI because it is part of the penalty for a IPF.

CEs are just that correcting an Error made by the Game Officials and the CE Rule only speaks in terms of Time Limits with not mention prohibiting the Time Limit spanning two Periods. That is why I do not like the wording of R5-6-S2, Exception 3. I guess I say tomaaato, and you say tomaahhto.

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I don't agree with that. You have the right conclusion, but the wrong reason.
The reason that Team A does not receive a throw-in in addition to the two FTs is that a throw-in is not one of the five correctable errors, so BY RULE the officials may only award Team A it's merited FTs, but not also it's merited throw-in.

The fact that the CE time limit in such a case spans over two periods of play has absolutely no impact. To prove that simply consider the proper administration of the same CE during a single period of play. The officials would still correct the mistake by awarding only the FTs and not the subsequent throw-in. The game would be continued at the POI.
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Old Sun Jan 11, 2015, 02:14pm
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I don't agree with that. You have the right conclusion, but the wrong reason.

The reason that Team A does not receive a throw-in in addition to the two FTs is that a throw-in is not one of the five correctable errors, so BY RULE the officials may only award Team A it's merited FTs, but not also it's merited throw-in.

The fact that the CE time limit in such a case spans over two periods of play has absolutely no impact. To prove that simply consider the proper administration of the same CE during a single period of play. The officials would still correct the mistake by awarding only the FTs and not the subsequent throw-in. The game would be continued at the POI.

Nevada:

That is what I said only using less words (I can't believe I just said that, .).

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That is what I said only using less words.
Which could be said about every single post that you've ever made on the Forum.
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