HC won't come to captains/coaches meeting

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Chris Whitten

Any of you guys ever have a varsity head coach refuse to come to the captains/coaches meeting? Obviously had a bug up his butt about something, but not doing many of his games, I didn't know the story. He sent his assistant.

What state are you in? OhioHSAA and MichiganHSAA has no such requirement.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. I wouldn't want the coaches to hear what I tell the Captains in the Captains' Meeting: "That the Captains are the ones in charge of the their respective teams including Bench Personnel." Meaning I will be coming to them first, where practical, to take care of problems. From a historical perspective Coaches were and after thought in the Rules and Captains, many times, are a bigger help at solving problems than Coaches, especially when ending Timeouts.

[bainsey]

Head coach is required at the coaches'/captains' meetings. I don't know of any consequence if a coach refuses, except maybe for, "Coach, this game won't start until you join us."

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Head coach is required at the coaches'/captains' meetings. I don't know of any consequence if a coach refuses, except maybe for, "Coach, this game won't start until you join us."

Bainsey:

Is the presence required in the State of Maine?

MTD, Sr.

[Raymond]

We walk to the benches at some point around or after the 2:00 mark before the game. If there are not there, oh well. Our captain's meeting is held at center court, usually around the 12:00 mark.

Years ago, when I got my first game as a BV crew chief, the home team coach hung out at the far end of the bench when we approached. He didn't come up to meet us so I started my "coach's box, full or 30 time-out" spiel to the assistants. He came up quickly and stated emphatically that he was the HC. I responded by saying "you weren't here, so I spoke to who was available". To this day he still is on my list of coaches I really don't like b/c he is always an a-hole to newer guys working his games.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Is the presence required in the State of Maine?

It's been a few years since we were told this, but if I recall correctly, our instructions stated the head coach is required at those pre-game meetings.

[JRutledge]

It is required in our state for IHSA contests the HC must attend. If they do not attend they can be written up by an official with a Special Report.

This happen to me and my partners years ago, the coach got a phone call from the IHSA Basketball Administrator the very next school day. Our state takes this seriously.

Peace

[Chris Whitten]

Mark, I am in Alabama. It seems to me one of the main reasons for the meeting is to identify the head coaches. I can understand getting tired of the same old spiel, but it sets the tone of sportsmanship and professionality for the game and can only be construed as disrespectful to the officials and the opposing HC.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

What state are you in? OhioHSAA and MichiganHSAA has no such requirement.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. I wouldn't want the coaches to hear what I tell the Captains in the Captains' Meeting: "That the Captains are the ones in charge of the their respective teams including Bench Personnel." Meaning I will be coming to them first, where practical, to take care of problems. From a historical perspective Coaches were and after thought in the Rules and Captains, many times, are a bigger help at solving problems than Coaches, especially when ending Timeouts.

Historically, we're not working in 1955. Now, the coaches are in charge.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Historically, we're not working in 1955. Now, the coaches are in charge.

This.

We get the captains at 12:00. By 11:30, I'm on my way to the table.

We start walking over to the visiting coach about 1:45. No formal coaches meeting here other than asking if their players are legally attired/equipped.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Rich

No formal coaches meeting here other than asking if their players are legally attired/equipped.

I have pretty much discontinued this. If they are illegally equipped, such as a weird color undershirt or whatever, then there is not penalty for the head coach, even if he says yes, and regardless of their answer I'm sending the player out of the game to fix the problem.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I have pretty much discontinued this. If they are illegally equipped, such as a weird color undershirt or whatever, then there is not penalty for the head coach, even if he says yes, and regardless of their answer I'm sending the player out of the game to fix the problem.

Actually, there is. It is direct technical foul to the head coach. Rule 10-5-4.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Actually, there is. It is direct technical foul to the head coach. Rule 10-5-4.

That rule has to do with illegal uniforms, not undeshirts/tights/leg or arm sleeves.

[BillyMac]

Coaches and captains meeting at 5:00:
Players properly equipped,
Players wearing uniforms properly,
Practice good sportsmanship.

Captains-Head Coaches-Officials pre-game meeting should occur prior to start of game. If the head coach
refuses to attend the meeting, notify Board Commissioner, who will notify the school athletic
director and CIAC (state interscholastic sports governing body).

[biggravy]

Read this today, had it happen tonight. Guy coached GV and BV so not a snub but we did need to decide how to proceed since there is no rule book directive other than head coach must be at meeting...

[BryanV21]

This is how we do it in central Ohio (slight differences from here, but mainly the same)...

1. Get the captains together at 18:00
-I usually say something along the lines of... "Who is the captain? You're the one that we'll go to if we need to relay information to your team, and vice versa. Now... nobody came to see us (the officials). You're representing yourselves, your team mates, coaches, school, and parents. So go out there and play hard, show good sportsmanship, and have a great game." Sometimes I'll point out all the kids in the gym and let the players know that those kids look up to them, so set a good example. Pump 'em up a little bit while reminding them to show good sportsmanship and play hard.

2. Check the book at 12:00
-introduce myself to scorers and timer, check that rosters and starters have been presented to the head scorekeeper, sign book (I'll initial the book after the last player written, so I can tell if somebody's been added), check equipment, and go over any special instructions (two horns for a TO, pre-game ceremonies, etc).

3. Meet with coaches at 2:30
-I skip the whole "is everybody legally and properly equipped", as it doesn't matter if they say "yes" or "no". I go over the coach's box, let me know about a 30 or full TO (or if you're in a hurry have an assistant let me know the type of TO you want), and any special instructions (last night they had an issue in the JV game where players would check-in at the corner of the table instead of going to the head scorekeeper, so I had to make sure the coach told his players to go to the scorekeeper... the one wearing the striped shirt).