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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 07:44pm
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Basket Interference with unintended advantage.

A wants to miss a free throw, B wants them to make it. We've had the discussion a few times about repeated lane violations.

What if B skips the lane violation and simply commits BI?
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 07:52pm
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If he's quick enough to commit BI on a free throw which was deliberately missed without violating, I say he deserves whatever benefits go with it.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 08:00pm
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Wasn't there a weird sitch in an NCAAM game a few years back game with unintended consequences, like a TF?
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 08:02pm
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Wasn't there a weird sitch in an NCAAM game a few years back game with unintended consequences, like a TF?
Goal tending on a free throw is a technical foul. Basket Interference is not.
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If he's quick enough to commit BI on a free throw which was deliberately missed without violating, I say he deserves whatever benefits go with it.
Why "without violating?"
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 09:20pm
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Why "without violating?"
A deliberate miss is usually a hard line drive that may not even enter the cylinder, and if it does, only briefly. One would have to be quick to enter after the release and get a hand in there.
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All he needs to do is be grabbing the net when it hits the rim.

What difference does it make if he committed a free throw violation in the process?
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Goal tending on a free throw is a technical foul. Basket Interference is not.
I'd likely go with the T, anyway. NFHS 10-3-6 says unsporting acts are "not limited to" the list of items, which includes goaltending a free throw. I'd submit that would include BI, as well. If nothing else, it's certainly an unsporting act, given the reason.
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what if the free throw shooter jumps in the air and commits a flagrant foul before the basket interference.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 11:13pm
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All he needs to do is be grabbing the net when it hits the rim.
Would you consider a line drive throw which hits the front of the rim to be "on or within" the basket?

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What difference does it make if he committed a free throw violation in the process?
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 11:25pm
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All he needs to do is be grabbing the net when it hits the rim.

What difference does it make if he committed a free throw violation in the process?
I could be wrong - but i think he meant as long as the free throw shooter didn't violate. Not, the BI guy.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2015, 11:33pm
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I could be wrong - but i think he meant as long as the free throw shooter didn't violate. Not, the BI guy.

Nope, for some reason I was thinking the BI wouldn't count if there was a free throw violation first. I was thinking....... You see, it was like this...... I......



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Nope, for some reason I was thinking the BI wouldn't count if there was a free throw violation first. I was thinking....... You see, it was like this...... I......



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I was hoping you would say, "Yeh, that's the ticket".
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what if the free throw shooter jumps in the air and commits a flagrant foul before the basket interference.
Not fair... I was eating when I read this.
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I'd likely go with the T, anyway. NFHS 10-3-6 says unsporting acts are "not limited to" the list of items, which includes goaltending a free throw. I'd submit that would include BI, as well. If nothing else, it's certainly an unsporting act, given the reason.
Not really. BI on a FT can be a natural and inadvertent result of trying to rebound the FT attempt too early. GT a FT is never a natural result of playing the FT.
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