FSU v Florida tip-in

[Adam]

The try is over once it's clear that it cannot go in. There's a case (NFHS, anyway) that clearly states once a try drops below the rim and hits another player or the floor, the try is over.

[La Rikardo]

I think it's pretty certain that the throw was unsuccessful. Anyway, if the officials decide that the try had not ended here, then hasn't the Florida player committed a goaltending violation?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

I think it's pretty certain that the throw was unsuccessful. Anyway, if the officials decide that the try had not ended here, then hasn't the Florida player committed a goaltending violation?

Only if the shot had a chance to go in.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

The try is over once it's clear that it cannot go in. There's a case (NFHS, anyway) that clearly states once a try drops below the rim and hits another player or the floor, the try is over.

4-41-4 says: "The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball is dead."

I do not see anything that says touching another player.

That being said, what if the basket was not as close to the rim and the ball would not have been called GT, but the ball is touched and goes in the basket in the same fashion as this play? I guess I am trying to think of what it mean by "clearly unsuccessful?"

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

4-41-4 says: "The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball is dead."

I do not see anything that says touching another player.

If it has dropped below the rim it is certain that it is unsuccessful, whether it touches another player or not.

That being said, what if the basket was not as close to the rim and the ball would not have been called GT, but the ball is touched and goes in the basket in the same fashion as this play? I guess I am trying to think of what it mean by "clearly unsuccessful?"

Peace

It would all be part of the same judgment. If the ball has no chance to go in, it can't be goaltending.