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Old Sat May 17, 2014, 12:19pm
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Just turned on the game in the top of the 4th, S Florida pitcher just got called for a couple of illegal pitches for leaping. Talking heads blabbing on and on about how leaping is not gaining an advantage, it is actually a disadvantage.
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Just turned on the game in the top of the 4th, S Florida pitcher just got called for a couple of illegal pitches for leaping. Talking heads blabbing on and on about how leaping is not gaining an advantage, it is actually a disadvantage.
My wife keeps saying, "Stop yelling at the TV. You know they can't hear you."
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Old Sat May 17, 2014, 12:26pm
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I was watching this and learned something new. Did you know that when the umpire holds out his arm and makes a fist that it's the signal for an illegal pitch? And here I always thought that it meant delayed dead ball. Thank you ESPN talking heads!
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Old Sat May 17, 2014, 12:29pm
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What part of the rule book do they not seem to grasp? Nowhere does it say, "only if the pitcher is gaining an advantage." The rule says the pivot foot must drag away from the pitching plate.
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My wife keeps saying, "Stop yelling at the TV. You know they can't hear you."

Your wife must be a bigamist because she sounds like my wife, .

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The hand held out is a delayed dead ball. It is also used on obstruction for example.
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Old Sun May 18, 2014, 09:35am
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What part of the rule book do they not seem to grasp? Nowhere does it say, "only if the pitcher is gaining an advantage." The rule says the pivot foot must drag away from the pitching plate.
And therefore, they are gaining an advantage. Otherwise, they would just pitch legally.
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Old Sun May 18, 2014, 09:55am
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Just turned on the game in the top of the 4th, S Florida pitcher just got called for a couple of illegal pitches for leaping. Talking heads blabbing on and on about how leaping is not gaining an advantage, it is actually a disadvantage.
The energy they are using to lift themselves airborne IS wasted, and they WOULD gain an advantage over leaping if they COULD exert that same energy horizontally toward the batter.

would... could... that is where the scientific analysis falls apart. The leaping pitcher is willing to sacrifice that bit of vertical force to gain a bit more horizontal force.

IOW, the vertical force IS wasted energy; in that aspect the THs are correct. But, the pitcher IS gaining an advantage since she is also gaining a bit more horizontal force (i.e. she is not jumping straight up!). So, the "no advantage" claim is incorrect.
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Old Sun May 18, 2014, 12:28pm
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They are at it again, "we have video of her throwing 70 mph with the foot in the air, and we have video of her throwing 70 mph with the foot on the ground. Where is she gaining an advantage? It is a stupid rule and if they pitchers arent gaining an advantage it shouldnt be illegal."

If it isnt an advantage, then why not just pitch legally? If they want the leap legal, then change the rule. Until then it is against the rules and the pitchers need to pitch within the rules they are playing under. One big point I do agree with though is it needs to be called all year, not just come tournament time. BUT, that does not change the fact these coaches know full well their pitchers arent legal and they choose to ignore it, then pitch a fit when they are called.
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If wasn't illegal to leap, what would stop a pitcher from launcing herself off the rubber like a standing broad jumper? Releasing the pitch another ten feet closer to the plate probably would be an advantage.
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Asu / Michigan game. "The runner has to slide going into second. "
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Old Sun May 18, 2014, 06:49pm
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what about third?

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Asu / Michigan game. "The runner has to slide going into second. "
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Old Sun May 18, 2014, 09:15pm
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They are at it again, "we have video of her throwing 70 mph with the foot in the air, and we have video of her throwing 70 mph with the foot on the ground. Where is she gaining an advantage?
The further the leap the less reaction time for a batter. Ergo advantage.

Do the math.
70 mph = 369,600 feet per hour /60 = 6160 feet per min /60 = 102.6667 feet per second

Reaction time for a 70mph pitch at
43' is .42 seconds
42' is .41 seconds
41' is .40 seconds
40' is .39 seconds
, etc.
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Old Sun May 18, 2014, 10:08pm
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Asu / Michigan game. "The runner has to slide going into second. "
I was wondering about this as well. I know Michigan wanted INT on the retire runner, but the umpires made the right call. S.R. was not close to being interfered with.

BTW: Did anyone see the wild 7th inning of the game. What a great finish for Michigan and a heartbreaking ending for ASU.

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Old Sun May 18, 2014, 11:03pm
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After spending the day out of the house I came home and started watching, and then erased it because I knew I would start yelling at the TV and my wife would get mad.

I figure I should keep her happy on the one of two weekends I am home this summer.
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