California running clock question

[crosscountry55]

And I just realized I completely misread your post. Upon further review, I think you're talking about the clock stopping after made baskets?

If so, I don't believe there is an NCAA-like clock stopping rule in CIF for 59.9 or less in the final quarter or overtime. So when you saw it happen, it was probably a clock operator who didn't understand that NFHS doesn't have such a rule. And officials who either didn't notice this or didn't bother to correct it.

Though eight states (including CA) use shot clocks, I don't know of any that use the 59.9 rule. I wouldn't mind seeing this rule added in NFHS, though. I was in a tight game last year and with about 4 seconds left Team A scored to come within 1. I looked to the Team A bench expecting a time out for sure, poised to blow a whistle for the head coach if he so much as even started to raise his hands or look my way. I thought he did (he didn't) and I blew the whistle. He was already out of timeouts; I had lost track. That was my bust; no excuses for the loss of game awareness. But the thing was, now we had an inadvertent whistle and Team B, who could have simply avoided inbounding the ball to win the game, now instead had to make a throw-in, giving Team A some leverage that they wouldn't have had. Had the clock stopped on the made basket, this wouldn't have been an issue and I wouldn't have had quite so much egg on my face.

[mutantducky]

good to know. Yeah, I had new person doing the clock but something I should have known! Keep the clock running after made baskets.
I do like stopping the clock but maybe the running way is easier and you don't have to worry about mistakes as much when they forget to stop/restart.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

And I just realized I completely misread your post. Upon further review, I think you're talking about the clock stopping after made baskets?

If so, I don't believe there is an NCAA-like clock stopping rule in CIF for 59.9 or less in the final quarter or overtime. So when you saw it happen, it was probably a clock operator who didn't understand that NFHS doesn't have such a rule. And officials who either didn't notice this or didn't bother to correct it.

Though eight states (including CA) use shot clocks, I don't know of any that use the 59.9 rule. I wouldn't mind seeing this rule added in NFHS, though. I was in a tight game last year and with about 4 seconds left Team A scored to come within 1. I looked to the Team A bench expecting a time out for sure, poised to blow a whistle for the head coach if he so much as even started to raise his hands or look my way. I thought he did (he didn't) and I blew the whistle. He was already out of timeouts; I had lost track. That was my bust; no excuses for the loss of game awareness. But the thing was, now we had an inadvertent whistle and Team B, who could have simply avoided inbounding the ball to win the game, now instead had to make a throw-in, giving Team A some leverage that they wouldn't have had. Had the clock stopped on the made basket, this wouldn't have been an issue and I wouldn't have had quite so much egg on my face.

Hmm .... the coach should have called the TO and taken the T anyway ....

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Though eight states (including CA) use shot clocks, I don't know of any that use the 59.9 rule.

New York State does for Girls' Basketball since it uses modified NCAAW's rules.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

New York State does for Girls' Basketball since it uses modified NCAAW's rules.

Cool! How good are the clock operators in paying attention to this? Are there a lot of problems or for the most part do they nail it every time?

[mutantducky]

ergh, I've had quite a few issues with timers this year. I think that would be a mess if they tried that in California. I'm all for the running clock after having recent issues.
Maybe one day if somehow an automated system could be installed I'd be in favor of it but too much human error if the clock was starting/stopping.