End of Game Situation Quiz

[La Rikardo]

Even if A2 was fouled after the buzzer, you could still have a shooting foul if A2 was an airborne shooter. Pretty sure this is also the case in NCAA, perhaps the only case where, with the benefit of checking time on a monitor, you'd be shooting free throws for a personal foul with no time left in the second half.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Even if A2 was fouled after the buzzer, you could still have a shooting foul if A2 was an airborne shooter. Pretty sure this is also the case in NCAA, perhaps the only case where, with the benefit of checking time on a monitor, you'd be shooting free throws for a personal foul with no time left in the second half.

Under all Rules sets (NFHS, NCAA Men's/Women's, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA, the answer is yes and no.

If A2,while airborne, is still in control of the ball when the buzzer sounds to end the period and then is "fouled" by B2, there is no foul. If A2 releases the ball prior to the buzzers sounds to end the period, then you can have foul by B2 against A2.

It is past my bedtime so Good Night all.

MTD, Sr.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Under all Rules sets (NFHS, NCAA Men's/Women's, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA, the answer is yes and no.

If A2,while airborne, is still in control of the ball when the buzzer sounds to end the period and then is "fouled" by B2, there is no foul. If A2 releases the ball prior to the buzzers sounds to end the period, then you can have foul by B2 against A2.

It is past my bedtime so Good Night all.

MTD, Sr.

Mark --

He used the term "airborne shooter." By definition (FED and NCAW, at least), that already means that the ball has been released on a try. The first part of your explanation, while correct, does not apply.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Mark --

He used the term "airborne shooter." By definition (FED and NCAW, at least), that already means that the ball has been released on a try. The first part of your explanation, while correct, does not apply.

I told you it was past my bedtime, .

MTD, Sr.

[Sharpshooternes]

Correct me if I am wrong but can the following situation also occur?
A1 jumps for a shot and is fouled by B1. Time then expires and A1 releases the shot which goes n or doesn't. Doesn't really matter either way. In this case you have a shooting foul, the shot if made is wiped as it was late. Two or three shots depending on spot of foul with No time on clock and lane cleared.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

A1 jumps for a shot and is fouled by B1. Time then expires

When should the clock have stopped?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Correct me if I am wrong but can the following situation also occur?
A1 jumps for a shot and is fouled by B1. Time then expires and A1 releases the shot which goes n or doesn't. Doesn't really matter either way. In this case you have a shooting foul, the shot if made is wiped as it was late. Two or three shots depending on spot of foul with No time on clock and lane cleared.

Correct in HS or college games w/o monitor. (assuming the FTs might affect the outcome)

Incorrect in college games w/ monitor.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Correct me if I am wrong but can the following situation also occur?
A1 jumps for a shot and is fouled by B1. Time then expires and A1 releases the shot which goes n or doesn't. Doesn't really matter either way. In this case you have a shooting foul, the shot if made is wiped as it was late. Two or three shots depending on spot of foul with No time on clock and lane cleared.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Correct in HS or college games w/o monitor. (assuming the FTs might affect the outcome)

Incorrect in college games w/ monitor.

As Bob notes, in a college game with a monitor the exact time of the foul would be put back on the clock and the goal would count if successful.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by La Rikardo

Even if A2 was fouled after the buzzer, you could still have a shooting foul if A2 was an airborne shooter. Pretty sure this is also the case in NCAA, perhaps the only case where, with the benefit of checking time on a monitor, you'd be shooting free throws for a personal foul with no time left in the second half.

I was pondering this myself, and indeed, under NCAA rules with a monitor, I believe you are correct; this is the only way you'd be shooting free throws for a personal foul with no time left in the second half.

On a separate note, while I was pondering this, I remembered something in the rules differences chart at the back of the NFHS rulebook about there being "no rule" for airborne shooter under NCAAM. Upon further review, this only applies to player control fouls, i.e. an airborne shooter cannot be charged with a PCF under NCAAM like he/she can be under NFHS/NCAAW. The concept of an airborne shooter being fouled by a defender (i.e. in the act of shooting) is still perfectly valid in NCAAM.