Traveling?

[KCRC]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Passing or shooting remains to be seen. More importantly, though:

Pivot foot up + pivot foot down = travel.

Just remember this.

I've often wondered...May the player hop on the non-pivot foot without limitation?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCRC

I've often wondered...May the player hop on the non-pivot foot without limitation?

No.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by KCRC

I've often wondered...May the player hop on the non-pivot foot without limitation?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No.

Because, when a player jumps, they must release the ball for a pass or try before either foot returns to the floor.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Because, when a player jumps, they must release the ball for a pass or try before either foot returns to the floor.

Not true. On a jump stop a player is permitted to jump and land without releasing the ball.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Not true. On a jump stop a player is permitted to jump and land without releasing the ball.

That's the exception, but the rule states what Camron said. (4-44-3b)
After a jump stop, 4-44-4b would apply.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Not true. On a jump stop a player is permitted to jump and land without releasing the ball.

The case was referencing the non-piviot foot...impling the other foot was the piviot foot. In such a case, a jump stop isn't even possible. When jumping as part of a jump stop, no pivot foot has been established.

Even in the jump stop scenario, where the play jumps off of the foot, they must come down with both feet together. If they're hopping on one foot, they have not executed a legal jump stop...still traveling when that one foot comes back down.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The case was referencing the non-piviot foot...impling the other foot was the piviot foot. In such a case, a jump stop isn't even possible. When jumping as part of a jump stop, no pivot foot has been established.

Even in the jump stop scenario, where the play jumps off of the foot, they must come down with both feet together. If they're hopping on one foot, they have not executed a legal jump stop...still traveling when that one foot comes back down.

Oh, I understand all that. Just wanted to make sure the exception to your absolute was noted.

[Sunnyboy]

Thank you all for the comments, and for forgiving my incorrect statment that the ball was bounced "on" the baseline rather than "along" the base line. 😁

I think the key in this situation is: it will be very difficault for the player to keep the non-pivot foot in place when he/she is moving at full speed. If the player can keep the foot still, it is not a travel, but rather a smart and skilled play.

I only have five years of experience, so I am greatful to have found this forum. One person asked why my crew and I had so much talk on issue. Because I have so few years of experience, I probably take the rules more literal than others. Much less practice in applying the rule(s) in game time situations, or history of "that is how it has always been called.

Thank you all again. Great info and insight.

[KCRC]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Because, when a player jumps, they must release the ball for a pass or try before either foot returns to the floor.

I see the 4-44-3b rule now. Thank you. Curiously, I don't see a similar prohibition in NCAA 4-70.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by KCRC

I see the 4-44-3b rule now. Thank you. Curiously, I don't see a similar prohibition in NCAA 4-70.

See Art 1.

Art. 1. Traveling occurs when a player holding the ball moves a foot or both feet in any direction in excess of prescribed limits described in this rule.

With that article, any foot movement not described as legal is illegal.