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Old Mon Dec 08, 2014, 10:22pm
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This was real play my crew has debated for a week now.
Why did it take so long? (I mean that sincerely -- I'm interested in the process)
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Old Mon Dec 08, 2014, 10:50pm
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Why did it take so long? (I mean that sincerely -- I'm interested in the process)
They've been corresponding via USPS.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 12:26pm
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A decision is still not agreed upon. We all live close, apparently have no real life, so we can beat any dead horse we happen upon. I find myself in the majority here. The rule does not have a time frame on shot or pass. Other says if player holds the ball, they are not in the act of passing or shooting, so a travel should be called.

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Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 12:31pm
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Other says if player holds the ball, they are not in the act of passing or shooting, so a travel should be called.
Passing or shooting remains to be seen. More importantly, though:

Pivot foot up + pivot foot down = travel.

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Old Wed Dec 10, 2014, 09:18am
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Passing or shooting remains to be seen. More importantly, though:

Pivot foot up + pivot foot down = travel.

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I've often wondered...May the player hop on the non-pivot foot without limitation?
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2014, 09:58am
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I've often wondered...May the player hop on the non-pivot foot without limitation?
No.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:44pm
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I've often wondered...May the player hop on the non-pivot foot without limitation?
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No.
Because, when a player jumps, they must release the ball for a pass or try before either foot returns to the floor.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2014, 01:06pm
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Because, when a player jumps, they must release the ball for a pass or try before either foot returns to the floor.
Not true. On a jump stop a player is permitted to jump and land without releasing the ball.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2014, 09:04pm
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Because, when a player jumps, they must release the ball for a pass or try before either foot returns to the floor.
I see the 4-44-3b rule now. Thank you. Curiously, I don't see a similar prohibition in NCAA 4-70.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 12:40pm
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A decision is still not agreed upon. We all live close, apparently have no real life, so we can beat any dead horse we happen upon. I find myself in the majority here. The rule does not have a time frame on shot or pass. Other says if player holds the ball, they are not in the act of passing or shooting, so a travel should be called.

Thank you all for the input, and welcome.
Ask those people to provide a rule that states that a player in the act of shooting or passing the ball has any bearing on calling a travel in this situation.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 01:21pm
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Grant the timeout. What rule says not shooting or passing right away once airborne makes it a travel?
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 03:42pm
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A decision is still not agreed upon. We all live close, apparently have no real life, so we can beat any dead horse we happen upon. I find myself in the majority here. The rule does not have a time frame on shot or pass. Other says if player holds the ball, they are not in the act of passing or shooting, so a travel should be called.

Thank you all for the input, and welcome.
I would ask them what the player did that constitutes a travel since the only time you can't lift your pivot is prior to a dribble.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 06:12pm
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Why did it take so long? (I mean that sincerely -- I'm interested in the process)
Maybe because of the ruling that states once a pivot foot is lifted a player must pass or shoot before the pivot foot returns to the floor. The same logic that says such a player cannot even legally fumble would also preclude a legal timeout request.
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