The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 05:34pm
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,044
Suffering from withdrawal symtoms.

Most of you know of my position with regard to guarding and screening (aka block/charge).

Mark, Jr., and I have officiated three JrHS doubleheaders and I have also officiated a girls' JV game yesterday afternoon, and:

I have yet to call a charge this season. I am starting to go through withdrawal. I can't remember that last time I have gone this long without a charge call. I have had Team Control Fouls in my games and one Player Control Foul but it was not a CHARGE!!

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sun Dec 07, 2014, 06:29pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Maybe you should contact these guys?


__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Dec 08, 2014, 02:31pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 769
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
Most of you know of my position with regard to guarding and screening (aka block/charge).

Mark, Jr., and I have officiated three JrHS doubleheaders and I have also officiated a girls' JV game yesterday afternoon, and:

I have yet to call a charge this season. I am starting to go through withdrawal. I can't remember that last time I have gone this long without a charge call. I have had Team Control Fouls in my games and one Player Control Foul but it was not a CHARGE!!

MTD, Sr.
We had 8 in boys varsity on Friday. 2-man. Each called 4.
__________________
Some people are like Slinkies...
Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 10:42am
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,044
Boys' FR game last night and still no charge.

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 11:06am
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
I haven't called a game in nearly two years...tell me about withdrawl...
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 12:02pm
certified Hot Mom tester
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: only in my own mind, such as it is
Posts: 12,918
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post
Boys' FR game last night and still no charge.

MTD, Sr.
This guy might help.

__________________
Yom HaShoah
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 05:04pm
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welpe View Post
I haven't called a game in nearly two years...tell me about withdrawl...
How come?
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 09:31pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 537
Third game of the year (not counting scrimmages), 8th grade boys, 2 charges...

On the second, he turns to his bench with his hands up and the "What the #@#@" look, his coach yells at him while motioning "you threw your elbow into him, I told you not to do that!". Indeed.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 09:59pm
This IS My Social Life
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at L, T, or C
Posts: 2,379
No Withdrawl Here. Overdosing.

Early season GV tonight. Crew got 3 TC fouls and 9 PC fouls. They just wouldn't stop barreling down the middle of the lane.
__________________
Making Every Effort to Be in the Right Place at the Right Time, Looking at the Right Thing to Make the Right Call
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 10:01pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Welpe View Post
I haven't called a game in nearly two years...tell me about withdrawl...
Tonight, in one quarter, I called a...

...spot throw-in violation,
...violation when thrower didn't step completely OOB,
...BC violation after B1 batted the ball, A1 batted the ball still in his FC and recovered it in his BC.

Trifecta!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 10:11pm
We don't rent pigs
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by BktBallRef View Post
...BC violation after B1 batted the ball, A1 batted the ball still in his FC and recovered it in his BC.
This is certainly in the running for call most likely to turn the whole building against you.

"THE DEFENSE TOUCHED IT!!!!!"
__________________
I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum.
It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow.


Lonesome Dove
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 10:15pm
Archaic Power Monger
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,983
Quote:
Originally Posted by AremRed View Post
How come?
Combination of having little kids and a more demanding job (especially this time of year). Something had to give and basketball was it. I'm hoping it's only temporary.
__________________
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 10:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 276
Ahead of the curve...

I have had at peasy 1 per week this season including 2 tonight. However, most are not the dramatic bowl 'em over type, usually a bump or push off before the shot. Defender gets displaced but not knocked down hard.

A side question to this: I have had a few no calls this season when A1 & B1 have very slight contact followed by B1 falling back as if charged. I let this go because the contact did not cause him to fall (but not a full flop) and the shot was not affected. However, two old vets told me that I should hit that on B1 to knock off the falls tothe floor and because B1 is now laying in the lane which rstricts A1's ability to rebound. My gake is that B1 has a right tothstspot on the floor and I'm not calling fouls for incidental contact just because one player falls down. What are your philosophies on this? How do you call these bump and falls?
__________________
Its not enough to know the rules and apply them correctly. You must know how to explain it to others!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Tue Dec 09, 2014, 11:28pm
We don't rent pigs
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 7,627
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich1 View Post
I have had at peasy 1 per week this season including 2 tonight. However, most are not the dramatic bowl 'em over type, usually a bump or push off before the shot. Defender gets displaced but not knocked down hard.

A side question to this: I have had a few no calls this season when A1 & B1 have very slight contact followed by B1 falling back as if charged. I let this go because the contact did not cause him to fall (but not a full flop) and the shot was not affected. However, two old vets told me that I should hit that on B1 to knock off the falls tothe floor and because B1 is now laying in the lane which rstricts A1's ability to rebound. My gake is that B1 has a right tothstspot on the floor and I'm not calling fouls for incidental contact just because one player falls down. What are your philosophies on this? How do you call these bump and falls?
Perhaps too much emphasis on falling. You can have a foul when nobody falls. You can have a no call when somebody does fall. And yes, it is not that uncommon for the foul to be on the one who fell.

Did one player actually displace the other causing that player to be put at a disadvantage?
__________________
I swear, Gus, you'd argue with a possum.
It'd be easier than arguing with you, Woodrow.


Lonesome Dove
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:06am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref View Post
This is certainly in the running for call most likely to turn the whole building against you.

"THE DEFENSE TOUCHED IT!!!!!"

Oh yeah. "Coach, your guy touched it last in the frontcourt and first in the backcourt. That's a violation."
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I'm going through withdrawal Mark Padgett Basketball 6 Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:29pm
Withdrawal Symptoms! refnrev Basketball 4 Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:03pm
Winter Withdrawal II sm_bbcoach Football 8 Wed Dec 03, 2003 05:24pm
Winter Withdrawal I sm_bbcoach Football 2 Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:53pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:12am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1