Apparel questions.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The "yay but" mentality will not serve you well in this avocation.

Thank you for your advise.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

Thank you for your advise.

Yeah....but......

Peace

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yeah....but......

Peace

No, truthfully. This whole thread wasn't my attempt at being argumentative but in an attempt to understand. I read this site to learn not argue and I attempt to see both sides of any discussion. I honestly thought that others would think that with the way the "sleeve" rule is worded that it could be construed that the undershirt long sleeves would have to match. Obviously I was wrong.

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

No, truthfully. This whole thread wasn't my attempt at being argumentative but in an attempt to understand. I read this site to learn not argue and I attempt to see both sides of any discussion. I honestly thought that others would think that with the way the "sleeve" rule is worded that it could be construed that the undershirt long sleeves would have to match. Obviously I was wrong.

Methinkis you are over thinking. As Mr. Rutledge noted, these rules came in over time as stuff developed. Back when i played anyone who thought of puting on a t-shirt under a hoops uniform would be forever branded a hopeless wuss. Times change. (As I recall, Ewing had some reaction to the material in the shirts, and his cotton t-shirts were, at least initially, to create a barrier with the shirt.)

So rules got developed to govern t shirts and keep uniforms uniform, which have been tweaked over the years.

Later, more accessories developed, and rules developed to address those. When sleeves first were arriving, they didn't come in all colors of the rainbow, but NFHS wanted to regulate. (I suspect some of the impetus was to avoid the flourescent yellow sleeve on the star to make him easier to find, but that is pure supposition on my part.)

So committees tried to write rules. And different conisderations drove addressing different issues, so we get different rules that use different language. And the olks who make the rules seem to have some sympathy to not making people throw out stuff they arleady have. It takes time to coalesce rules to more consistency -- and all rule changes take someone caring enough to propose the change.

I really like Bob's simple home = white; away = black or predominant color -- which could unify everything. No one would ever have to buy more than two of anything.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by jeremy341a

No, truthfully. This whole thread wasn't my attempt at being argumentative but in an attempt to understand. I read this site to learn not argue and I attempt to see both sides of any discussion. I honestly thought that others would think that with the way the "sleeve" rule is worded that it could be construed that the undershirt long sleeves would have to match. Obviously I was wrong.

Some things you do not need to see both sides. Not sure why that would be an issue in the first place. Many of us have been around to see these rules evolve. I do not like the fact these are rules, but they were developed over my career. Heck I remember when socks were regulated as in what logo could be on them and how we had to navigate those items for about a year or two.

The point BNR is trying to make, when you get an answer from people you requested (many have been working 20 or more years) it is not a good look to debate with their perspective. And it is really bad to argue with a rule that is written clearly and people have seen why the rule was put in the book in the first place. And unlike when I started, the NF did not have a working relationship with the Referee/NASO where they put out a guide that describes the reason for rules changes. There was also not the social media that could discuss these things in detail either. That is why people can confidently talk about the differences in these items and how they do or do not fall under the same restrictions.

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