Womens UCONN/UW Greenbay-Table Crash (Video)

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

I can be convinced either way as I think the loose ball fouls are the hardest calls for me to make personally, but I think I would call a foul on blue for going into and through the white player. If she just goes for the ball, it's nothing but it looks like,tome that she initiates contact with the white player to prevent her from getting the ball.

The thing that bugs me about these plays is if you do all a foul the coach ALWAYS says, "It's a loose ball. There can't be a foul!!"

What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjusting these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?

I highly suggest that you take another look at the video. Blue is on her feet and running in a straight line toward the ball and has the more advantageous route and position relative to White as they both advance toward the ball. White dives and takes Blue's legs out from under her. Blocking or pushing foul on White.

MTD, Sr.

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by mark t. Denucci, sr.

i highly suggest that you take another look at the video. Blue is on her feet and running in a straight line toward the ball and has the more advantageous route and position relative to white as they both advance toward the ball. White dives and takes blue's legs out from under her. Blocking or pushing foul on white.

Mtd, sr.

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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by mathreferee

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[Matt S.]

I can't believe this is even a debate. A player who leaves her feet and makes contact doesn't have legal position, period.

Good thing Trail came 50 feet to get this.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Good thing Trail came 50 feet to get this.

What does the distance have to do with anything? I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away, after all.

I think it's a fantastic piece of officiating. The official on the ballside of the floor was pinned inside and had no idea what happened there.

BTW, that was the center making the call -- the L rotated over and put the old C / new T in a horrible position.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by Rich

I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away, after all.

An excellent example on how to be insightful using a useless scientific fact.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

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BTW, that was the center making the call -- the L rotated over and put the old C / new T in a horrible position.

You mean after meandering around the middle of the paint for a while?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

BTW, that was the center making the call -- the L rotated over and put the old C / new T in a horrible position.

I wouldn't say the L rotating put the C/T in a horrible position. She would have been in that horrible position even if the L had not rotated. She got screened by the players (even got run into) and whether she was supposed to be C or T, she would have had no look.

It was good of the new C to recognize the T was pinned and prevented from seeing the play. Whether we agree or not with the actual call, it was on the T to cover it.

Originally Posted by Rich

What does the distance have to do with anything? I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away, after all.

I think it's a fantastic piece of officiating. The official on the ballside of the floor was pinned inside and had no idea what happened there.

BTW, that was the center making the call -- the L rotated over and put the old C / new T in a horrible position.

I was being sarcastic bro.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

I can't believe this is even a debate. A player who leaves her feet and makes contact doesn't have legal position, period.

First, what does that have to do with this play?

Second, it isn't even correct.

[Matt S.]

Camron, show me a rule set where a player with no foot on the floor that creates contact is considered legal. You cannot undercut a player who is going after a loose ball, can you?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

Camron, show me a rule set where a player with no foot on the floor that creates contact is considered legal. You cannot undercut a player who is going after a loose ball, can you?

You didn't say "creates" contact before...you said makes contact. Even so, it is still incorrect. Two players, from equally favorable positions going for a lose ball....feet on the floor is irrelevant.

I do have a foul on white in this play, but not for having no feet on the floor. Blue beat her to the spot...the positions were not equally favorable.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Matt S.

Camron, show me a rule set where a player with no foot on the floor that creates contact is considered legal. You cannot undercut a player who is going after a loose ball, can you?

Any player who is running. There are cases where they may "create" contact, by some definitions, and be legal.
Any player with LGP who is jumping.

Off the top of my head anyway.