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The_Rookie Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:56pm

Womens UCONN/UW Greenbay-Table Crash (Video)
 
Video Request: UCONN/WISC Green Bay..SportsChannel NY..12:37 2ND

Loose Ball Hard Crash into the table. Who should Foul be on? or no foul?

Thanks!

jeschmit Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:38am

Here's the video:

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The way Geno reacted, I'm assuming the foul was called on Stewart.

Sharpshooternes Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:45am

I can be convinced either way as I think the loose ball fouls are the hardest calls for me to make personally, but I think I would call a foul on white (you guys are right) for going into and through the white player. If she just goes for the ball, it's nothing but it looks like,tome that she initiates contact with the white player to prevent her from getting the ball.

The thing that bugs me about these plays is if you do all a foul the coach ALWAYS says, "It's a loose ball. There can't be a foul!!"

What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjudicating these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Dec 07, 2014 01:34am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 945899)
I can be convinced either way as I think the loose ball fouls are the hardest calls for me to make personally, but I think I would call a foul on blue for going into and through the white player. If she just goes for the ball, it's nothing but it looks like,tome that she initiates contact with the white player to prevent her from getting the ball.

The thing that bugs me about these plays is if you do all a foul the coach ALWAYS says, "It's a loose ball. There can't be a foul!!"

What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjusting these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?


I highly suggest that you take another look at the video. Blue is on her feet and running in a straight line toward the ball and has the more advantageous route and position relative to White as they both advance toward the ball. White dives and takes Blue's legs out from under her. Blocking or pushing foul on White.

MTD, Sr.

MathReferee Sun Dec 07, 2014 01:45am

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Originally Posted by mark t. Denucci, sr. (Post 945901)
i highly suggest that you take another look at the video. Blue is on her feet and running in a straight line toward the ball and has the more advantageous route and position relative to white as they both advance toward the ball. White dives and takes blue's legs out from under her. Blocking or pushing foul on white.

Mtd, sr.

+1

Camron Rust Sun Dec 07, 2014 02:44am

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Originally Posted by mathreferee (Post 945902)
+1

+1

Matt S. Sun Dec 07, 2014 08:31am

White foul
 
I can't believe this is even a debate. A player who leaves her feet and makes contact doesn't have legal position, period.

AremRed Sun Dec 07, 2014 08:51am

Good thing Trail came 50 feet to get this. :rolleyes:

bob jenkins Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:13am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 945899)
What pearls of wisdom do you all have for adjusting these plays properly and what do you say to coaches who think this?

Use the rulebook verbiage. Keep it to five words or fewer (when possible).

As far as adjudicating (I think that's what you meant when you said "adjusting"), watch the players, not the ball.

Oh -- I agree it's a foul on white.

OKREF Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:34am

I have a foul on white, if a foul is called.

Rich Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:56am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 945913)
Good thing Trail came 50 feet to get this. :rolleyes:

What does the distance have to do with anything? I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away, after all.

I think it's a fantastic piece of officiating. The official on the ballside of the floor was pinned inside and had no idea what happened there.

BTW, that was the center making the call -- the L rotated over and put the old C / new T in a horrible position.

johnny d Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:01am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 945924)
I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away, after all.


An excellent example on how to be insightful using a useless scientific fact.

BillyMac Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:12am

I'll Be Here All Week Folks, Tell Your Friends To Stop By ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 945924)
I can see the sun and it's 93 million miles away, after all.

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 945926)
An excellent example on how to be insightful using a useless scientific fact.

I can see the Andromeda Galaxy and it's 2.25 million light years away. I eat a lot of carrots. Did you ever see a rabbit wearing glasses?

Scientist says that he's going to become famous by being the first person to land on the Sun. Second scientist says that that's impossible because it's too hot on the Sun. First scientist says that he's figured out a way around that problem; he's going to land on the Sun at night.

Raymond Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:40am

An easy foul on White diving into the legs of Blue.

Raymond Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:44am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 945924)
...

BTW, that was the center making the call -- the L rotated over and put the old C / new T in a horrible position.

You mean after meandering around the middle of the paint for a while?


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