Captains Meeting Question, Part II--Illinois Officials

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

6. Whistle should have a neck cord ...

Odd. We have more than just a few lanyardless officials here. Why wouldn't they allow this in Illinois?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

My local board, my local interpreter (also the training coordinator), and my high school assigner, neither encourage, nor discourage belts. In thirty-four years, the only mention of belts has been, "If you're going to wear a belt, make sure that it's all black". Period, not another word, and I served several years on the training committee. That's the way it is. Here. I'm sure that it's very different in other places. And I fully accept that.

Not only are you strongly discouraged to wear a belt, you might not get hired or get fired if you wear a belt. It is that simple. The state has nearly 6000 officials, they do not care what officials do at all levels, but they certainly do not hire official at all for regular season games. And there are no association that do any assigning (like around the country) and the IHSA is not going to give a darn what people wear in a freshman B game in a small town.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

My local board, my local interpreter (also the training coordinator), and my high school assigner, neither encourage, nor discourage belts. In thirty-four years, the only mention of belts has been, "If you're going to wear a belt, make sure that it's all black". Period, not another word, and I served several years on the training committee. That's the way it is. Here. I'm sure that it's very different in other places. And I fully accept that.

The uniform requirement in Wisconsin is "beltless slacks." This doesn't stop some people (mostly subvarsity) from wearing belts, but when I watched the rules video and this was mentioned, I thought of Billy.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

All right kids. Play nice!

MTD, Sr.

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

6. Whistle should have a neck cord and should be such that it may be heard

Good advice, having a whistle that can be heard. Were people using dog whistles?

Originally Posted by scrounge

Good advice, having a whistle that can be heard. Were people using dog whistles?

I think they mean don't swallow your whistle.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by j51969

I hate the lanyard thing.

Not sure how things operate in Champaign, but in Chicago you if you don't wear a lanyard, you are not going to be getting any varsity games. It has nothing to do with what the state says, and everything to do with what the assignment chairs say. Also, in almost every college conference I work and many of the college camps I have been to, you are told to use a lanyard. Again, it is what the assignors expect. There are lots of things I don't like doing, but when my boss tells me to do them, I can either follow his advice or find a new line of work. Besides, I have much more important things to worry about than being forced to use a lanyard.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

The uniform requirement in Wisconsin is "beltless slacks." This doesn't stop some people (mostly subvarsity) from wearing belts

It would certainly stop me. I do what my assigner, and my interpreter, tell me to do. Plus, we still have peer ratings here (soon to be done away with).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not only are you strongly discouraged to wear a belt, you might not get hired or get fired if you wear a belt.

Great advice if I plan to move to Illinois (or any other state) but I don't, so I'll just do what is expected of me in Connecticut as long as I officiate here. If they change the uniform guidelines in Connecticut, you'll be the first to know, followed by me purchasing beltless pants.

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I am working on designing a special message filter for any text string containing "belt" or "belts" for this forum.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Great advice if I plan to move to Illinois (or any other state) but I don't, so I'll just do what is expected of me in Connecticut as long as I officiate here. If they change the uniform guidelines in Connecticut, you'll be the first to know, followed by me purchasing beltless pants.

Then why did you even mention what Illinois had written down? We know you are not moving.

Peace

[j51969]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Not sure how things operate in Champaign, but in Chicago you if you don't wear a lanyard, you are not going to be getting any varsity games. It has nothing to do with what the state says, and everything to do with what the assignment chairs say. Also, in almost every college conference I work and many of the college camps I have been to, you are told to use a lanyard. Again, it is what the assignors expect. There are lots of things I don't like doing, but when my boss tells me to do them, I can either follow his advice or find a new line of work. Besides, I have much more important things to worry about than being forced to use a lanyard.

If it ever becomes an issue I may have to 're-evaluate my stance. IMO a coach wants a fit competent referee. It gets mentioned at camps as well. At this time it has not held me back from getting varsity assignments. For me Officiating basketball is a passion not a job. I haven't used a lanyard in around 20 years. If I ever get back to small college basketball again I will probably have to change. Until then I choose not to. Right now the military takes up most of my time. As an independent contractor I can choose my assignments and they can choose not to hire me.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Then why did you even mention what Illinois had written down?

Because I found it interesting.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Boys!! Lets play nice!

This thread was supposed to be another one of my light hearted threads because when it comes to rules discussions I can be a very difficult person to deal with when I am correct, ; even when I am incorrect about being incorrect, .

MTD, Sr.

P.S. I don't want to have to report the two of you to Santa so close to Christmas.