Interesting night in NBA refereeing (Video)

Originally Posted by kstiles99

The first clip is just a regular Joey Crawford. That is all. Not surprised.

Not really. I suspect the NBA (like NCAA-W) wants most rebounding fouls to come from Slot/Center and Trail. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong. While in his primary, he was last in line for this play. He does have a late whistle though when he realizes he's gotta jump in which doesn't help.

Originally Posted by kstiles99

Ken Mauer messed up here. In my association, my assignors and veterans stress tremendously that we should hand the ball to the player if you're in the front court or if the defense is pressing. Mauer threw the ball at Carmelo. One should never do this. The ball could catch a finger of the player and potentially break it... Or… result in this situation. So a repeated throw in was the right way to go.

Now another mistake was how Mauer sounded the whistle before the inbound. The whistle was not needed. The only time a whistle should be blown before the inbound is after a timeout, after an intermission, or after unusual delay. The time he blew the whistle before the second inbound is acceptable because of the delay.

Another thing is, Mauer threw the ball to Carmelo while he was on the inside of the throw-in. He should've handed Carmelo the ball while on the outside of him, putting Carmelo between him and the basket.

Also, Ken Mauer is seen chewing gum when he reports the T. I've wondered if chewing gum during a game is okay. I've thought about it, but I haven't ever done it. I don't know if it would help me or hurt me. Anyone have any comments about that?

These mistakes may be acceptable in the NBA, but I have been lectured many a time by veterans using NF guidelines. It makes mistakes like these a lot more noticeable. I do in fact know that they are small things, but I am just stating what I saw was wrong in this instance.

Feel free to light me up, vets

You are aware that these are not 'mistakes' in the NBA right? You keep referring to them as such, just want to make sure you know there are different expectations in NBA versus your NFHS games.

I don't see how tossing the ball to a player is gonna jam their finger. These are professional ball players. They are paid millions of US dollars to dribble, pass, catch, and shoot (basket) balls. I assume they should be fine handling a ball tossed to them.

Regarding the whistle I gotta defer to APG here. Even so, I sparingly use a whistle in my NFHS games to let everyone we are about to play. Some use a whistle, some bounce the ball, some yell "BALLGAME!"; if a quick whistle improves communicating we are ready to play, why not use it?

If the throw-in location on the endline is anywhere outside the midpoint between the nearer lane line and the three-point line, the administering official should stand inside the thrower. I believe this is a new NCAA-M mechanics change this year. If standing inside puts Lead in a better position to referee the ensuing play, why not do it?

I chew gum during games, and do not think it is unprofessional. I get dry mouth pretty easily if I can't drink water all the time which hinders my blowing the whistle and talking to partners/players/coaches. Whenever I'm nervous or under a lot of stress I chew my gum very vigorously which has been pointed out to me by a couple observers.

[kstiles99]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Not really. I suspect the NBA (like NCAA-W) wants most rebounding fouls to come from Slot/Center and Trail. I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong. While in his primary, he was last in line for this play. He does have a late whistle though when he realizes he's gotta jump in which doesn't help.



You are aware that these are not 'mistakes' in the NBA right? You keep referring to them as such, just want to make sure you know there are different expectations in NBA versus your NFHS games.

I don't see how tossing the ball to a player is gonna jam their finger. These are professional ball players. They are paid millions of US dollars to dribble, pass, catch, and shoot (basket) balls. I assume they should be fine handling a ball tossed to them.

Regarding the whistle I gotta defer to APG here. Even so, I sparingly use a whistle in my NFHS games to let everyone we are about to play. Some use a whistle, some bounce the ball, some yell "BALLGAME!"; if a quick whistle improves communicating we are ready to play, why not use it?

If the throw-in location on the endline is anywhere outside the midpoint between the nearer lane line and the three-point line, the administering official should stand inside the thrower. I believe this is a new NCAA-M mechanics change this year. If standing inside puts Lead in a better position to referee the ensuing play, why not do it?

I chew gum during games, and do not think it is unprofessional. I get dry mouth pretty easily if I can't drink water all the time which hinders my blowing the whistle and talking to partners/players/coaches. Whenever I'm nervous or under a lot of stress I chew my gum very vigorously which has been pointed out to me by a couple observers.

You are correct. I apologize for my wording, these are not mistakes.
However… Assuming APG is correct on the whistle procedure and Mauer was right to give the ball while standing on the inside.. I feel this could've been overall prevented if Mauer handed Carmelo the ball.

Now.. This is also on the part of Carmelo. I don't know how the sound of a Fox 40 even at it's loudest could hurt his ears that much. My ears are always ringing at the end of a game.. But it doesn't make me physically react. Anyone have any different views on this?

And I'm going to also try chewing gum in my next game. Sounds like a swell idea!

Are there any NBA guys that use this forum?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by kstiles99

Are there any NBA guys that use this forum?

I am the ghost of Earl Strom.

[Kansas Ref]

My ultimate career goal in this vocation (within 5 yrs) is to become an NBA ref.
When my oldest kid graduates from h.s., I will look into this.
I know folks who have never done college reffing but who tell me that the relevant camps for NBA training don't require that one have been a college ref. But they do tell me that there is quite a bit of travelling involved--for training camps.
Hey, I could go straight from Highschool to the pros !

[Brad]

Originally Posted by kstiles99

Are there any NBA guys that use this forum?

Can confirm…but they rarely post. And when they do you’ll never know who they are.