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Going into the under 8 timeout with 7:50 left or so. Charge call but it looked like she was on the RA.
Anybody else see it or able to post video? Interested in the thoughts of the college officials. |
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On Stanford's three to tie the game with a second left, from the opposite end line camera angle, you can see the lead go up with a fist and switch it to a three point signal when it is good. A case of a brain fart for her or was she going to call a foul if it was missed?
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I saw the RA play, too. Looked to be in the RA, I think the C is supposed to help out on that.
In other news, Doris Burke just threw a fit about a foul call at 2:13 in OT. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who doesn't care for her! |
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Looked like the C is pointing at something about the time the L makes the punch.
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I agree with this. And what I think she's pointing at is the RA, not telling the L to "take it". As if to say to the L "You saw she was over the RA, right?" Then L comes out and bangs a charge. From outside her primary. Like others have said, just a guess on my part.
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Not really a "fit" but the call may have left a little to be desired. Where UConn could complain is the signal given was a push/two-hand touch and UConn #41 never put two hands on the BH/dribbler.
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White 41, guarding Blue 30, slid over to take the charge. Would she be considered a secondary defender?
If so, does that change the mind-set of the C and L, as to which official takes the call? Would that explain the point by the C, that seems to indicate that L should take the call? Is there a difference as to which official takes that call, based on when/where the ballhandler received the pass, that is, as she crossed the freethrow line extended, or if she had received the pass higher, on her path to the basket?
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On a fastbreak, any defensive player is a secondary defender (in NCAAW) |
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![]() *Once the UConn player caught the pass, she was in the C's PCA. Any contact on the C's side of the lane is hers. The L is supposed to help if needed. *She caught the pass/began her move outside the LDB so the RA is on (I'm teaching myself to go through that thought process). *By rule, every defender in a fast break situation is a secondary defender (NCAAW 4.35.2). We have to expect the player closest to the goal is going to slide over. What I think happened - and this is obviously just a guess - is even though we only see a fist from the C, the L may have blown her whistle first and that threw off the C's concentration. The L didn't see the C make a call and instead of telling the C to take it, she kept it. I'm making that guess based on something that happened to me in a scrimmage about ten days ago. Same type of fast break situation, I'm the C but the contact was actually on the block nearest to me as opposed to deeper in the lane. My L not only had a whistle he also had a preliminary. Thankfully we both had a block but hearing his whistle when I didn't expect anyone else to blow threw me off and my mechanics on the play were horrible.
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Would love to hear from the C why she gave that up. |
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JetManFan: You forgot the most important word in NCAAW R4-S35-A2: "initially". When B-11 gained PC of the Ball there was no defender between her and the Basket. W-41 established a LGP against B-11 before B-11 became airborne. I agree that in theory the C should have this play all the way to the Basket. And in this type of play the L has a good look at W-41 coming from her PCA to establish a LGP. My problem is that the L may have been straight-lined just before B-11 became airborne, none-the-less, this was an easy charge for the C to get. MTD, Sr.
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