Duke/Michigan State Pass and Crash (Video)

[JRutledge]

TC fouls that should be called.

Peace

[HokiePaul]

It looks like the C thought briefly about making the call late. It looks like he starts a left fist up, but stopped himself. I think he probably realized that he missed the crash while following the pass, and not knowing whether the defender had LGP or not, he opted to swallow his whistle.

[Mechanicsman]

I agree pass and crash plays need to be called. Hard to tell from this angle whether there was much contact though. Looks like the MSU player was moving sideways as the Duke player was falling (did not go through him).

[maroonx]

If the C made the call, should it be block on White or PC on Green?

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by maroonx

If the C made the call, should it be block on White or PC on Green?

Well, it couldn't be Player Control, since he had already passed the ball. If it's on Green, it would simply be a Charge = Pass and Crash.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Well, it couldn't be Player Control, since he had already passed the ball. If it's on Green, it would simply be a Charge = Pass and Crash.

Team control foul.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Team control foul.

I agree.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mechanicsman

I agree pass and crash plays need to be called. Hard to tell from this angle whether there was much contact though. Looks like the MSU player was moving sideways as the Duke player was falling (did not go through him).

One, you don't need to "go through" to have a charge. Pretty sure they tried to take that philosophy away a couple of years ago.

Second, I think that green's foot lands behind (or even with) where white started and then green jumps / moves off of that to move sideways.

Charge.

[Mechanicsman]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

One, you don't need to "go through" to have a charge. Pretty sure they tried to take that philosophy away a couple of years ago.

Second, I think that green's foot lands behind (or even with) where white started and then green jumps / moves off of that to move sideways.

Charge.

Maybe "go through" is not the right language. There still has to be enough contact to put the player at a disadvantage. I'm saying it is possible, given our bad angle, that the duke player fell on his own with minimal contact.