Uconn Stanford women's vid requestx3 (Video)

[SWMOzebra]

JMF is right: we're not supposed to be rotating at the end of a shot clock sequence (5 sec or less). My comment would be that the L is working too wide to effectively officiate the paint. She's standing at or just outside the LDB line on the floor.

I know they want us working wider as L this year and it's something I'm struggling to adjust to ... but if she would have closed down or even pinched the paint a bit she may have been more inclined to put a whistle on this play, even if it was a late one.

Then again, maybe not. As I watch the replay, the shooter and defender are clearly on C's side of the lane ... it may be she's simply trusting her partner to work her primary.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

JMF is right: we're not supposed to be rotating at the end of a shot clock sequence (5 sec or less). My comment would be that the L is working too wide to effectively officiate the paint. She's standing at or just outside the LDB line on the floor.

I know they want us working wider as L this year and it's something I'm struggling to adjust to ... but if she would have closed down or even pinched the paint a bit she may have been more inclined to put a whistle on this play, even if it was a late one.

Then again, maybe not. As I watch the replay, the shooter and defender are clearly on C's side of the lane ... it may be she's simply trusting her partner to work her primary.

And, even if she rotates, she might not be looking up high enough to see the contact on the outside arm.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And, even if she rotates, she might not be looking up high enough to see the contact on the outside arm.

On that particular play, and any play that has a shot like that we should be looking at feet for 2 or 3, then shift to point of contact which on these jump shots is going to be elbow to wrist, and then focus our attention to feet again to make sure the shooter has a spot to land.
I think if the lead is on the strong side on this play, that should be the only thing they should be looking at.

[Sharpshooternes]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

JMF is right: we're not supposed to be rotating at the end of a shot clock sequence (5 sec or less). My comment would be that the L is working too wide to effectively officiate the paint. She's standing at or just outside the LDB line on the floor.

I know they want us working wider as L this year and it's something I'm struggling to adjust to ... but if she would have closed down or even pinched the paint a bit she may have been more inclined to put a whistle on this play, even if it was a late one.

Then again, maybe not. As I watch the replay, the shooter and defender are clearly on C's side of the lane ... it may be she's simply trusting her partner to work her primary.

What is the Men's mechanic for low shot clock rotations? I don't really like the mechanic. I think you need to get to the best spot for the best angle, regardless of the time on the clock. And actually in this case at this point of the game, you HAVE to get this call right. I think this was a game changer that got missed because they lost possession and instead should have been shooting two.

[RefCT]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

What is the Men's mechanic for low shot clock rotations? I don't really like the mechanic. I think you need to get to the best spot for the best angle, regardless of the time on the clock. And actually in this case at this point of the game, you HAVE to get this call right. I think this was a game changer that got missed because they lost possession and instead should have been shooting two.

They didn't lose possession because of the no-call. The got the ball back for a throw-in after the video replay. They then lost possession after a 5 second count.

Granted, I agree that no-call and the charge call were big plays for Stanford. UConn didn't lose because of these 2 calls though.

[JetMetFan]

One thing I will say -- there was probably no reason for the L to be on that side of the court in the first place.

The sequence starts with a throw-in in front of UConn's bench with 1:31 remaining after a time-out, meaning the L would have been doubling the table side sideline with the T. The clip picks up with UConn #4 dribbling between the circles. During the entire sequence the ball never settles beyond the FT lane line extended opposite the table but the L began rotating literally two seconds after the ball came inbounds. If she held her position she's right in front of everything when the shot takes place.

[biggravy]

If C would have had the illegal screen at 1:15 game time, 0:13 video time none of the rest would have mattered.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by biggravy

If C would have had the illegal screen at 1:15 game time, 0:13 video time none of the rest would have mattered.

The only screen I see then is the one at the top of the key and there isn't any contact on that one. Is this the one you are referring too?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by biggravy

If C would have had the illegal screen at 1:15 game time, 0:13 video time none of the rest would have mattered.

What???

You want an illegal screen call on a play where there is no contact at all? The Stanford defender ran around the screen.

[reffish]

The lead may or may not have put the crew in the best position for this play, however, the C is responsible for the call on the shot, it is her primary. She takes a step down when the player gathers the ball and turns away from the C to shoot. I believe she would have a more open look if she had stepped to her right.

[LSCoach]

I think the screen being referenced happened before the screen you guys are talking about. The screen #23 set after passing the ball. Looks like she slides at the last minute to set it.