Throw In Violation and AP

[Freddy]

Of my "Ten Rulings I Don't Think are Fair", this is one. Seems the harsher penalty on an AP throw-in should be for fouling rather than merely committing a violation. Then again, because it's the opposite of what I'd think would be "fair", it's easy for me to remember.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Of my "Ten Rulings I Don't Think are Fair", this is one. Seems the harsher penalty on an AP throw-in should be for fouling rather than merely committing a violation. Then again, because it's the opposite of what I'd think would be "fair", it's easy for me to remember.

The foul has its own penalty components which might be considered to be more significant than keeping the arrow.

[The_Rookie]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Of my "Ten Rulings I Don't Think are Fair", this is one. Seems the harsher penalty on an AP throw-in should be for fouling rather than merely committing a violation. Then again, because it's the opposite of what I'd think would be "fair", it's easy for me to remember.

What Else on the list of rulings unfair?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by The_Rookie

What Else on the list of rulings unfair?

Not wanting to hijack thread.
Check PM.

[ballgame99]

Dang, I messed this up last week too. For a refresher, if A is in the process of making an AP throw in, the only thing that will keep the arrow from switching is if B commits a foul? What if A commits a foul? Sorry, don't have my rulebook available.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Dang, I messed this up last week too. For a refresher, if A is in the process of making an AP throw in, the only thing that will keep the arrow from switching is if B commits a foul? What if A commits a foul? Sorry, don't have my rulebook available.

The arrow switches when the throw-in ends. The throw-in ends when the ball is legally touched, touched OOB (except the "plane" issue) or the throw-in team violates. A foul does NOT end the throw-in, so the arrow does not switch.

[jeschmit]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The arrow switches when the throw-in ends. The throw-in ends when the ball is legally touched, touched OOB (except the "plane" issue) or the throw-in team violates. A foul does NOT end the throw-in, so the arrow does not switch.

To add to this, if the defense violates before the ball is legally touched (kicked or batted ball for example), the ensuing throw in would be for the defensive violation and not for the AP throw in. Therefore the arrow would stay with A.

[RefCT]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The arrow switches when the throw-in ends. The throw-in ends when the ball is legally touched, touched OOB (except the "plane" issue) or the throw-in team violates. A foul does NOT end the throw-in, so the arrow does not switch.

Thanks for this Bob. This was the light-bulb moment for me with the rule (i.e. explained/read multiple times before and never truly got/remembered/understood it. This wording did it).