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Old Mon Oct 13, 2014, 06:52am
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How about player control status, or for that matter, team control status, out of bounds?
It seems obvious (to me) that you can derive that from what was stated.
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 06:21am
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It seems obvious (to me) that you can derive that from what was stated.
So you would agree that there is player control during the throw-in (as described in the original thread)?
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 06:24am
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So you would agree that there is player control during the throw-in (as described in the original thread)?
No I would not agree with that. At all.
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No I would not agree with that. At all.
What's missing?
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 08:02am
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I'm going by the text of the note I quoted above. There is specific wording that team control during a throw-in is not intended to equate to player control. There is no mention of player control existing out of bounds. It only makes sense that player control exists inbounds.
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:24am
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I'm going by the text of the note I quoted above. There is specific wording that team control during a throw-in is not intended to equate to player control. There is no mention of player control existing out of bounds. It only makes sense that player control exists inbounds.
But, Smitty, 4-12-1 tells us that "A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling a live ball."
And, 4-12-2 "A team is in control of the ball:
a. When a player of the team is in control.
d. When a player of the team has disposal of the ball for a throw-in."

Thus, for purposes of a Test question/answer, as to whether there is player control during a throw-in, one must play the "what does the test administrator want for an answer, type game," and respond, "Yes."
I seem to recall that this same or a similarly worded question appeared on last year's test, and they were eliciting a "True" answer. (?)
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Old Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:49am
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The answer key in the OP says no. I agree. I think they added enough wording via the notations to imply there is no player control during a throw-in. The fact that it's not implicitly stated in the rules doesn't keep me up at night.
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But, Smitty, 4-12-1 tells us that "A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling a live ball."
And, 4-12-2 "A team is in control of the ball:
a. When a player of the team is in control.
d. When a player of the team has disposal of the ball for a throw-in."

Thus, for purposes of a Test question/answer, as to whether there is player control during a throw-in, one must play the "what does the test administrator want for an answer, type game," and respond, "Yes."
I seem to recall that this same or a similarly worded question appeared on last year's test, and they were eliciting a "True" answer. (?)
They dropped a key word from this rule recently...'inbounds". Perhaps it was an editing error and they still intend for PC to only exist inbounds.
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