2014 Unannounced Changes? (e.g. Casebook 4.14.1 Sit. D)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Now, can they give wristbands and headbands the same color and team requirements?

Better yet, can we get out of the fashion/color business entirely? I got a game to work.

Originally Posted by Rich

Better yet, can we get out of the fashion/color business entirely? I got a game to work.

We should take those officials who love being fashion police and put them in a group called "Compliance Officials". They would travel around to schools and law down the fashion law. We could create a test of entirely uniform questions (wait, would that be any different than the current NFHS tests??) to find those special officials!

Either that, or have schools self-report uniform violations. I just wanna call the game.

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Now, can they give wristbands and headbands the same color and team requirements?

Another change ...

NFHS 3-5-4

Headbands and wristbands shall be white, black, beige or predominant color of the uniform and shall be the same color for each item and all participants.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Better yet, can we get out of the fashion/color business entirely? I got a game to work.

It's great in theory, until the away teams start wearing white undershirts with long sleeves. AFAIC, make the color requirement simple.

Dominant jersey color only, or they take it off. No, "white, beige, black, fuscia, or predominant color..." If it doesn't match your jersey, it doesn't work.

Of course, if they wanted to make this a similar process as protesting the use of ineligible players, I wouldn't have my feelings hurt. Get it on tape and send it to the state.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

Better yet, can we get out of the fashion/color business entirely? I got a game to work.

Fashion, yes. Color, no. Colors on sleeves can be confusing. Imagine having several colors on each team with players on opposite teams wearing similar colors. It would make it a lot easier to allow a team to only wear a color that matches their main uniform color OR possibly home can wear white sleeves and visitor can wear dark (black) sleeves even if it is not their uniform color.

[Freddy]

OK, it seems they've thrown out "single solid school color" and replaced it with "predominant color of the uniform". I get that. However . . .

New 3-5-4a says, "Headbands and wristbands shall be white, black, beige, or predominant color of the uniform..."

New 3.5.4 says, "Team A's school colors are blue and gold and the predominant color of Team A's jerseys are (sic) white. Prior to the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing . . . blue headbands and blue wristbands... RULING: Legal . . .

Is this not a contradiction between rulebook and casebook?
Or am I missing something here?

[chseagle]

I asked my family about what the casebook ruling states, & they were shaking their heads, as how can blue headbands & wristbands be considered legal when the predominant color of the uniform is white?

Originally Posted by Freddy

OK, it seems they've thrown out "single solid school color" and replaced it with "predominant color of the uniform". I get that. However . . .

New 3-5-4a says, "Headbands and wristbands shall be white, black, beige, or predominant color of the uniform..."

New 3.5.4 says, "Team A's school colors are blue and gold and the predominant color of Team A's jerseys are (sic) white. Prior to the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing . . . blue headbands and blue wristbands... RULING: Legal . . .

Is this not a contradiction between rulebook and casebook?
Or am I missing something here?

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Isn't a wristband worn on the arm?

If it is not worn on the wrist.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by Rich

Better yet, can we get out of the fashion/color business entirely? I got a game to work.

Agreed. My bottom line feeling is junk all the fashion police stuff, and play on.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Now, can they give wristbands and headbands the same color and team requirements?

Are they not already??

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Now, can they give wristbands and headbands the same color and team requirements?

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Are they not already??

Yes they are

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Are they not already??

Indeed they are. I misunderstood the verbiage in the rule change. Thanks for the heads up.

[BillyMac]

Since wristbands are worn on the arm, they are sleeves? Right?

Since headbands must match the color of wristbands, then they (headbands) also fall under the "sleeves" color restrictions? Right?

The new "predominant color of the uniform" language applies to wristbands, headbands, sleeves (arm, and leg), and undershirts? Right?

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Since wristbands are worn on the arm, they are sleeves? Right?

No. Compare 3-5-4c (wristbands) with 3-5-3. In an unfortunate overstatement, 3-5-3a ("Anything worn on the arm and/or leg is a sleeve") mucks things up.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Since headbands must match the color of wristbands, then they are fall under the "sleeves" color restrictions? Right?

No. As before, headbands and wristbands are one family, arm sleeves and leg sleeves (add tights now) are another family.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The new "predominant color of the uniform" language applies to wristbands, headbands, sleeves (arm, and leg), and undershirts? Right?

Everything is the same except "predominant color of the uniform" replaces "single solid school color"

BTW, do you have a new rulesbook?

[BayStateRef]

Ugh. Just wish they left this alone.

School colors are white and green. Girls want to wear green headbands at home, with their white uniforms and green trim. Last year's ruling: legal (any single school color.) Before 2010-11: illegal (had to match the color of the torso of the shirt). The girls hated it, in part because different officials ignored the "illegal" headbands.

Four years this worked just fine. I would love to hear the back story on this: what happened that prompted the reversion to the old rule?

And now the case book contradicts the language of the rule? Double ugh. And no...I don't have my new rules book yet.