Getting the ball...

[referee99]

... team captain, who was a lively personality, says to me (as I'm LGBTing) "you know the NBA refs get the ball for LeBron!"

[Adam]

Originally Posted by referee99

... team captain, who was a lively personality, says to me (as I'm LGBTing) "you know the NBA refs get the ball for LeBron!"

1. No, they don't. You'll never see an NBA ref chasing the ball out of the gym.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by referee99

... team captain, who was a lively personality, says to me (as I'm LGBTing) "you know the NBA refs get the ball for LeBron!"

Me to team captain (as I am pointing to the ball); "When you are as good as him I will gladly get you the ball. Until then..."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

I was half expecting this video to show a fight breaking out after the official turned to retrieve the ball ...
From what I recall in the other thread, my association seems to be in the minority and most felt strongly that this was a bad idea.

Minority? I have yet to hear anyone advocate this. I would not have been chancing the ball and certainly have never been advocated to do so.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Minority? I have yet to hear anyone advocate this. I would not have been chancing the ball and certainly have never been advocated to do so.

Didn't an NBA ref go to jail for that?

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Minority? I have yet to hear anyone advocate this. I would not have been chancing the ball and certainly have never been advocated to do so.

Peace

Well there is my association (at least a couple other members here although I don't know how they feel on this issue) ... and whatever association/board oversees the league featured in this video.

Just to be clear, I'm re-posting the email my association sent ...

"There is no NFHS rule or Association policy that states players are supposed to retrieve a loose ball. It is the responsibility of a member of the crew to retrieve the ball while the other member/s of crew observe the players. Forcing players to retrieve the ball gives the appearance we are lazy or out of shape."

I wouldn't go so far as to say that my association "advocates" that we chase after the ball. Policy simply states that it is ultimatly our responsibility and that we should not direct players to do so. I'm surprised at how strongly some of you oppose this--I don't see it as a big deal either way. We're not expected to go chasing the ball every time it goes out of bounds.

I do think, however, that telling players to go get the ball looks bad. I leave directing players to do things to their coach unless it is specifically addressed in the rules/manual/duties. That's why, for example, we say "you can't play with earrings" instead of "take out your earrings". Directing a player to "take out your earrings" is over-stepping your authority, as is (arguably) directing a player to go get the ball.

In an instance such as the video here, I believe that it looks better for the official to go get the ball as opposed to the alternative (stand there waiting/watching players stand around) or telling one of the players to get it (and overstepping your authority as an official).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Well there is my association (at least a couple other members here although I don't know how they feel on this issue) ... and whatever association/board oversees the league featured in this video.

Not necessarily.

[bainsey]

So, we have two officials watching the floor in a women's college game, while the L gets the ball.

What's the down side here? What's the alternative?

[JRutledge]

Hokie,

I was under the impression that your advocated the same things I was taught. Sorry if I misunderstood.

That being said, I do not tell players to go get the ball. I ask them to "help with the ball." And I am not the one going to retrieve the ball, so we are going to sit there until they get the ball. And you can basically train players to the expectation early on in the game. Players learn very early what is going on and adjust accordingly.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

There is no NFHS rule ... that states players are supposed to retrieve a loose ball.

Nor is there any NFHS rule that states that the official must retrieve a loose ball.

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

I leave directing players to do things to their coach unless it is specifically addressed in the rules/manual/duties. That's why, for example, we say "you can't play with earrings" instead of "take out your earrings". Directing a player to "take out your earrings" is over-stepping your authority, as is (arguably) directing a player to go get the ball.

So, instead of saying, "Go get the ball", we can say, "We can't play without that ball". Hopefully the players will get the idea, and if they don't, we can come back with, "I'm not getting that ball".

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Nor is there any NFHS rule that states that the official must retrieve a loose ball.



So, instead of saying, "Go get the ball", we can say, "We can't play without that ball". Hopefully the players will get the idea, and if they don't, we can come back with, "I'm not getting that ball".

Everything we do is not in writing. Some times we just have to officiate.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by referee99

... team captain, who was a lively personality, says to me (as I'm LGBTing) "you know the NBA refs get the ball for LeBron!"

"This ain't the NBA and you ain't Lebron, and if he were here I wouldn't go get if for him, either."

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Retrieving a basketball is not in the game officials' job description. Players are paid big dollars to retrieve the ball for the game officials. AND I DO instruct players to retrieve the ball. AND I DO instruct new officials to instruct players to retrieve the ball.

MTD, Sr.