Summer ejection #1

[Kansas Ref]

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

I had an assistant coach eject himself Friday night...can I count that one?

*how does a participant "eject him-self" ?

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

*how does a participant "eject him-self" ?

It was early in the second quarter and I was working "one man" mechanics as my partner was held up in traffic. A player drove the baseline from the corner and right before he got to the lane gathered the ball to shoot. A defender stepped toward him so he simply ran (while holding the ball) to the other side of the lane. I called the travel and the assistant almost went nuts (figure it was his kid). I tell him to settle down and remind the coach that the assistant is his responsibility but the guy just walks down the sideline and out of the gym. Left on his own and stood in the hallway for the rest of the game watching through the door.

Therefore, he ejected himself.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

It was early in the second quarter and I was working "one man" mechanics as my partner was held up in traffic. A player drove the baseline from the corner and right before he got to the lane gathered the ball to shoot. A defender stepped toward him so he simply ran (while holding the ball) to the other side of the lane. I called the travel and the assistant almost went nuts (figure it was his kid). I tell him to settle down and remind the coach that the assistant is his responsibility but the guy just walks down the sideline and out of the gym. Left on his own and stood in the hallway for the rest of the game watching through the door.

Therefore, he ejected himself.

Let's take this a step further.

Regular season game. AC starts chirping, so you tell the HC to control his bench. The AC gets up and moves off the bench, to another part of the gym. He remains mouthy.

Toss? Whack?

[Adam]

Probably not, but he's getting less rope than a normal fan before I have him removed. I'm also filing a report with my association and the state.

[BatteryPowered]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's take this a step further.

Regular season game. AC starts chirping, so you tell the HC to control his bench. The AC gets up and moves off the bench, to another part of the gym. He remains mouthy.

Toss? Whack?

Well, if it is a regular season game I probably wouldn't be working one man mechanics so there would be an official by the bench to address the situation. But to address the probable question; Yes, I would tell the HC to control his bench. If the AC leaves the bench area I would have to think about this one for a moment...probably address it with the partner(s) at next dead ball. If he is still mouthy we need to decide if he is still an AC or a spectator (I can't remember seeing this addressed in the rules or case book). If he is a spectator and mouthy to the point of needing to be addressed, then I am telling the game administrators to try to calm him down before I have to address it (probably catch flack here for that, but I try to avoid tossing fans at "real" games). If we deem him to still be an assistant...whack.

I am going to need to ask about this at the camp I am attending in a few weeks. Honestly though, for now I am going to focus on the cruise I have between now and then (summer ball is over for me) .

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's take this a step further.

Regular season game. AC starts chirping, so you tell the HC to control his bench. The AC gets up and moves off the bench, to another part of the gym. He remains mouthy.

Toss? Whack?

Originally Posted by Adam

Probably not, but he's getting less rope than a normal fan before I have him removed. I'm also filing a report with my association and the state.

Originally Posted by BatteryPowered

If we deem him to still be an assistant...whack.

For funsies, at what point is he no longer bench personnel? Is it once he's beyond the confines of the bench area?

#2: Can he come and go?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rooster

For funsies, at what point is he no longer bench personnel? Is it once he's beyond the confines of the bench area?

#2: Can he come and go?

Honestly, if he heads back to the bench after sitting in the stands, I'm going to get ring him up then and there for leaving the bench.

If he never goes back, I'm going to assume he was out of place on the bench and never really belonged there.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Adam

Honestly, if he heads back to the bench after sitting in the stands, I'm going to get ring him up then and there for leaving the bench.

If he never goes back, I'm going to assume he was out of place on the bench and never really belonged there.

Can you please direct me to the language in the rules book stating that the assistant coach may not leave the bench during the game. Perhaps he needs to use the restroom.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rooster

For funsies, at what point is he no longer bench personnel? Is it once he's beyond the confines of the bench area?

#2: Can he come and go?

In a regular HS contest there is a penalty for team members leaving the bench for an unauthorized reason.
Strictly speaking, an assistant coach or team manager cannot stand up without receiving a technical foul, except for a few specific circumstances.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

In a regular HS contest there is a penalty for team members leaving the bench for an unauthorized reason.

But coaches are bench personnel, not team members... 4-34-4

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's take this a step further.

Regular season game. AC starts chirping, so you tell the HC to control his bench. The AC gets up and moves off the bench, to another part of the gym. He remains mouthy.

Toss? Whack?

Whack!! Leaving the bench area for an unauthorized reason.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. I have a story about whacking a basketball HC for leaving the bench area, but it will have to wait of later tonight.